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8 Decr 1812
Church

II Topics
Ch 3. Appointment
§.1. Abstract fitness
Part. 2. do Paley

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§.1. Abstract fitness.

1
The country divided into
districts under the name
of parishes, which division
had for object providing
for each neighbourhood
a place of
instruction capable
of receiving all the residents.
p.1

2
For each district, a
teacher is to be appointed
whose main duties are,
explaining to hearers
Jesus' precepts & influencing
them to obey.
Who shall choose this
instructor?

Either the person's whom
his instruction profits,
or his non-instruction
injures, or by persons
not sharing such profit
or loss. p.1

3
Thus presented, the question
seems to include its
own answer so that to give
words to it would seem
trifling. p.1.

4
Of any other answer
the incongruity is absurd.
But however incongruous
circumstances diminish
it's mischievousness
a greater degree than is at
first sight easily imaginable.
p.2

5
Natural as this arrangement
is, it is not without
inconvenience. Choice
supposes competitors in any
number. Minority liable
to be left dissatisfied. p.2

6
Per contra it follows
not though to minority
B. or C. is acceptable, A is
positively not so. p.2.

7
Suppose stranger to appoint
all (instead of minority)
may be dissatisfied
p.2.

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§.1. Abstract fitness.

8
If the time in question
were when the many were
scarce above brutes, the answer
would be not so clear
but the present is the state
of things in question. p.2

9
If congregation maintains
pastor, it is an additional
reason for their having
power of choosing him.
p.3

10
Teacher the immediate object
of their faith. Upon
him depends what portion
of the sacred text
shall be presented to their
view. On the efficiency
of the influence of his understanding
or theirs, depends
the utility of his
instructions. The above
influence depends, not only
on the respect, but the
good will they feel for him:
— & their good will depends
on his. p.3

11
Under these circumstances
it is absurd in one
degree if he is chosen by
less than the majority
of his flock, still more,
if chosen by one of his
flock only — but greatest,
if chosen by person
or persons not of his
flock. p.3.

Experience

12
Among all sectaries
except non-Catholics, & Methodists;
such is the mode of
appointment.+ For how
as the teacher is paid by
the free contribution
of his flock, could it be
otherwise! p.4

13
What is more, is — that
2. this is the mode even among
Church of Englandists as
often as government provided
pay is encreased by voluntary
contribution.
When addition is desired
to the income of a Rector Curate
or Lecturer, Do they apply to King,
Bishop, Dean &c? No, they know
that their trust is better reposed
on themselves than on princes. p.4

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§.1. Abstract fitness.
Part 2. Paley.

1.
Evident by what follows
that Paley considered
election by the flock
as the proper mode of
filling benefices p.1

2
Speaking of subscription
he says — "During
the resent state of
Church Patronage
in which private individuals
are permitted
to impose
teachers on parishes
some limitation of
patron's choice may
be necessary to prevent contentions
between neighbouring
teachers, or between
the teachers
& their flocks." In
his eyes then, the
present mode of
appointment was
so flagrantly improper,
that the abolition
of it, & substitution
of a better
was regarded as not
too improbable to
be expected. p4.

3.
Would any single
person, or small
number of persons,
or any short of the
whole number of
persons interested
have met his ideas
on the subject? It
should seem not —
Speaking of the oath
against simony, he
speaks of one class,
as likely to have (not
all due regard but)
some regard to the
qualifications of
their nominees.
From all others,
the regard, in his
notion of the matter —
will be — none at all.
p.2

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The persons contained
in this groupe are
public patrons ex. gr.
The King — Chancellor
Bishops — Ecclesiastical
corporations &c.
These are the only
persons in whom (per
Paley) it is reasonable
to suppose the existence
of any such regard,
& thence he mentions
this as a proper case
to apply the oath
against simony. p.2.

☞ Addend. 5 Mar. 1813

Part 3. How it came originally
that the appointment
was one individuals,
by patronage not by election
Refer to §.3.

Part 4. How at the Reformation
patronage came to be
preserved. Refer to §.5 or 6.

Palliative to the mischief
of patronage, qualifications,
a strong reading Section
a false one Anglicé.

☞ 6 Mar 1813. Ordo
Put before this discussion
the propositions or rules
concluded upon.

+ Except certain of the Methodists
in Qu .

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