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<p>occupation: or if no capitulation or stipulation, then, being <lb/><hi rend='underline'>enemies</hi>, they may think themselves <add>happy</add> so at last they<lb/> may hear from the Grotius, the Puffendorfs and all other<lb/> the Dutch and German <hi rend='underline'>Prime Ministers</hi> of Queen <gap/>)<lb/> <add>happy &#x2014; <del><gap/>  happy, if</del> beyond their due, if </add><del>if they are</del> allowed to keep their lives. </p>
<p>occupation: or if no capitulation or stipulation, then, being <lb/><hi rend='underline'>enemies</hi>, they may think themselves <add>happy</add> so at last they<lb/> may hear from the Grotius, the <sic>Puffendorfs</sic> and all other<lb/> the Dutch and German <hi rend='underline'>Prime Ministers</hi> of Queen <gap/>)<lb/> <add>happy &#x2014; <del><gap/>  happy, if</del> beyond their due, if </add><del>if they are</del> allowed to keep their lives. </p>
 
<p>Thus far <hi rend='superscript'>[+]</hi> <note><hi rend='superscript'>[+]</hi> being so far as the feelings of the conquered, who <del>are common</del> <add>in all these</add> cases have comprised by far the smaller portion of the thus formed aggregate, are concerned.</note> <add> thus far</add> it seems but natural to <del>have supposed</del> <add>suppose</add> <lb/><add>the views of</add> Lord Mansfield and his Colleagues, to have <del>thought<add><del>reached</del> <gap/></add><add>intended their thoughts</add></del> <lb/><del><gap/> of</del> <add><del>what <gap/></del></add> <add>study of what one presents itself as</add> the proper ground <del>of</del> <add>for</add> derision in such a case, <lb/>there remains a more extensive portion, and to <del>an</del> <add>a</add> <lb/> <del>English</del> <add>British</add> eye <del>and English head <add>of</add> <add>a</add></del> still more interesting <lb/>one, to which, for any thing that appears, <del>their survey</del> <add>the survey <add>taken</add> of</add> <lb/><add>by those sages</add> tried but not reached: <add>[+]</add> <note><add>[+]</add> I mean, the interest which the conquerors themselves have in the <del>state</del> political condition of the conquered.</note> A Colony-full of Spaniards, a Portuguese, &amp; Danes, &amp; Swedes, <lb/><del>a Dutch</del> Dutchmen &amp; Frenchmen of that time (to say<lb/> nothing of later times) had <add>little or</add> nothing to lose, by their <del>p</del> being<lb/>
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


<p>Thus far <hi rend='superscript'>[+]</hi> <note><hi rend='superscript'>[+]</hi> being so far as the feelings of the conquered, who <del>are common</del> <add>in all these</add> cases have composed by far the smaller portion of the thus formed aggregate, are concerned.</note> <add> thus far</add> it seems but natural to <del>have supposed</del> <add>suppose</add> <lb/>
<add>the views of</add> Lord Mansfield and his Colleagues, to have <del>thought<add> <del>reached</del> <gap/></add><add>intended their thoughts</add></del> <lb/><del><gap/> if</del><add>what <gap/></add> <add> But, if what now presents itself as</add>  the proper ground <del>of</del> <add>for</add> derision in such a case, <lb/>there remains a more extensive portion, and to <del>an</del> <add>a</add> <lb/> <del>English</del> <add>British</add> eye <del>and English head</del> <add>a</add> still more interesting <lb/>one, to which, for any thing that appears, <del>their survey</del> <add>the survey <add>taken</add> of</add> <lb/><add>by those sages</add> tried but not reached: <add>[+]</add> <note><add>[+]</add> I mean, the interest which the conquerors themselves have in the <del>state</del> political condition of the conquered.</note> A Colony-full of Spaniards, a Portuguese, &amp; Danes, &amp; Swedes, <lb/><del>a Dutch</del> Dutchmen &amp; Frenchmen of that time (to say<lb/> nothing of later times) had <add>little or</add> nothing to lose, by their <del>p</del> being<lb/> placed under the Government of a King of England, <lb/> <note>in point of <add>poli</add> <del>security</del> constitutional security</note> though legislating over them without the concurrence of any<lb/> deputies from <add>among themselves:</add> <del>the people</del>: they had even a good deal<lb/> to gain by it, in respect of the protection <del>of</del> <add>afforded by a <sic>controuling</sic> </add> Parliament<lb/> <del>and of</del> <add>as well as by</add> English judicature, against <unclear>opposition</unclear> <add>on the part of their Governors.</add><lb/> So much for the conquered: but how stands it with the <lb/>conquerors? <add>[+]</add> <note>[+] whose interest <del>have</del> <add>has</add> also <del>their</del> <add>its</add> claim to be consulted: a claim which if the interests were equal in degree would <del>in value served</del> <add>surpass</add> the other interests <del>in the equal proportion of numbers to numbers?</del> <add>in value, </add> as much as it does in regard to the number of the individuals interested?</note> <del>who, in whose interest, in proportion as they
<lb/>
not the more numerous <add>than the conquered, <gap/> <add>part in</add></add> have the <gap/> chance to be considered.</del>
<lb/>
Here (to cut the matter short) the same principles<lb/> of constitutional law which forbid<del>s</del> the King to have<lb/> a standing army <del>at his disposal</del> or a separate purse<lb/> at his <add>own</add> disposal, out of the <sic>controul</sic> of Parliament, forbid <lb/>his possessing, in any such independent footing, any subjects <lb/>whose <hi rend='underline'>persons</hi> he can put into the ranks, and whose <lb/><hi rend='underline'>money</hi> he can put into his <add>separate</add> purse at pleasure.] <del>Under</del> <lb/>
<add>the</add> <lb/>
<add>Under</add>
</p>






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23 July 1802
N. S. Wales
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occupation: or if no capitulation or stipulation, then, being
enemies, they may think themselves happy so at last they
may hear from the Grotius, the Puffendorfs and all other
the Dutch and German Prime Ministers of Queen )
happy — happy, if beyond their due, if if they are allowed to keep their lives.

Thus far [+] [+] being so far as the feelings of the conquered, who are common in all these cases have composed by far the smaller portion of the thus formed aggregate, are concerned. thus far it seems but natural to have supposed suppose
the views of Lord Mansfield and his Colleagues, to have thought<add> reached </add>intended their thoughts
ifwhat But, if what now presents itself as the proper ground of for derision in such a case,
there remains a more extensive portion, and to an a
English British eye and English head a still more interesting
one, to which, for any thing that appears, their survey the survey <add>taken of</add>
by those sages tried but not reached: [+] [+] I mean, the interest which the conquerors themselves have in the state political condition of the conquered. A Colony-full of Spaniards, a Portuguese, & Danes, & Swedes,
a Dutch Dutchmen & Frenchmen of that time (to say
nothing of later times) had little or nothing to lose, by their p being
placed under the Government of a King of England,
in point of poli security constitutional security though legislating over them without the concurrence of any
deputies from among themselves: the people: they had even a good deal
to gain by it, in respect of the protection of afforded by a controuling Parliament
and of as well as by English judicature, against opposition on the part of their Governors.
So much for the conquered: but how stands it with the
conquerors? [+] [+] whose interest have has also their its claim to be consulted: a claim which if the interests were equal in degree would in value served surpass the other interests in the equal proportion of numbers to numbers? in value, as much as it does in regard to the number of the individuals interested? who, in whose interest, in proportion as they
not the more numerous than the conquered, <add>part in</add> have the chance to be considered.

Here (to cut the matter short) the same principles
of constitutional law which forbids the King to have
a standing army at his disposal or a separate purse
at his own disposal, out of the controul of Parliament, forbid
his possessing, in any such independent footing, any subjects
whose persons he can put into the ranks, and whose
money he can put into his separate purse at pleasure.] Under
the
Under




Identifier: | JB/116/150/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.

Date_1

1802-07-23

Marginal Summary Numbering

[[marginal_summary_numbering::2 [or] 9]]

Box

116

Main Headings

panopticon versus new south wales

Folio number

150

Info in main headings field

n. s. wales

Image

001

Titles

Category

text sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

e11

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

Marginals

jeremy bentham

Paper Producer

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

ID Number

37683

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