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<head><!-- written in pencil -->18 June 1802 6 43</head><lb/>
<head>N.S. Wales</head>
<head><!-- written in pencil -->N.S. Wales</head><lb/>
<p>18 June 1802</p>
<note>6. Conduct<lb/>
<note>6. Conduct<lb/>
1. No Legislation<lb/>
1. No Legislation<lb/>
3. Causes</note>
3. Causes</note><lb/>
 
<note><!-- written in pencil -->5<lb/>
<note>5<lb/>
They were afraid to<lb/>
They were afraid to<lb/>
propose to Parliament<lb/>
propose to Parliament<lb/>
a Constitution so <gap/><lb/>
a Constitution so important<lb/>
for an<lb/>
for an<lb/>
establishment which<lb/>
establishment which<lb/>
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borne examining<lb/>
borne examining<lb/>
into in other respects.</note>
into in other respects.</note>
<p>In New South Wales their power of legislation, if created by<lb/>
<p>In New South Wales their power of legislation, if created by<lb/>law, and by law vested any where, must <del>have</del> (it would seem) be vested<lb/>
law, and by law vested any where, <del>have</del> (it would seem) be vested<lb/>
in a single hand.</p>
in a single hand.</p>
<p>Destined to that use, and to be established in that place<lb/>
<p><!-- the whole sentence erased by pencil--> Destined to that use, and to be established in that place<lb/>
no plan occurred <add>to them</add> in which the <add>constitution of the</add> Colony could<lb/>
                    no plan occurred <add>to them</add> in which the <add>constitution of the</add> Colony could<lb/>
the <add><del>Penitentiary</del></add> Colony <del>could not</del> be established on any <add>apparent</add> ground of<lb/>
                    the <add><del>Penitentiary</del></add> Colony <del>could not</del> be established on any <add>apparent</add> ground of<lb/>
tolerable security, without lodging the power of legislation<lb/>
                    tolerable security, without lodging the power of legislation<lb/>
in a single hand.</p>
                in a single hand.</p>  
<p>Here then was another feature which for fear and<lb/>
                <p>[+]<note>[+]Had why, as in <gap/>the other <unclear>..ges</unclear></note> <!--  in red ink -->Here then was another feature which for fear and<lb/>
shame they durst not <add>lay open</add> expose to the view of Parliament.<lb/>
                    shame they durst not <add>lay open</add> expose to the view of Parliament.<lb/>
<del>Parliament might said</del> <foreign>Cui bono</foreign>? <add>it might have been said?</add> Where is the necessity<lb/>
                    <del>Parliament might said</del> <foreign>Cui bono</foreign>? <add>it might have been said?</add> Where is the necessity<lb/>
&#x2014;what the use of this unseemly measure? Why call upon<lb/>
                    &#x2014;what the use of this unseemly measure? Why call upon<lb/>
us to give a sanction to a form of government which<lb/>
                    us to give a sanction to a form of government which<lb/>
so long as it exists, exhibits a <add>is one uninterrupted</add> perpetual violation of<lb/>
                    so long as it exists, exhibits a <add>is one uninterrupted</add> perpetual violation of<lb/>
those constitutional principles which form our very cradles<lb/>
                    those constitutional principles which form our very cradles<lb/>
we have been all of us taught to hold so dear <add>cling to with enthusiastic fondness+</add>. Why<lb/>
                    we have been all of us taught to hold so dear <add>cling to with enthusiastic fondness<hi rend="superscript">2</hi></add><note>What is this mighty benefit <add>as <gap/> cried?</add><lb/>
call upon us to give our sanction to such a precedent?<lb/>
                        for the purchase of which<lb/>
In case of necessity yes: necessity is paramount to law.<lb/>
                        we are thus called upon to<lb/>
<add>But in this case, what necessity? where is it?</add><lb/>
                        make a sacrifice of our<lb/>
<del>But where is the necessity in this case?</del> No if your<lb/>
                        dearest prejudices, with the<lb/>
Colony can not be planted, without planting despotism in<lb/>
                        soundest reasons for their<lb/>
the bosom of it <gap/> let it remain unplanted: Such<lb/>
                        support?</note>
was the language that <add>in the natural course of things might be expected to be</add> <del>might have been</del> heard in Parliament:<lb/>
                    Why<lb/>
such was the language M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Pitt was afraid of<lb/>
                    call upon us to give our sanction to such a precedent?<lb/>
hearing in Parliament. Such was the language <add>dear</add> M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Pitt<lb/>
                    In case of necessity yes: necessity is paramount to law.<lb/>
<add>having nothing to say in answer to it</add> could not bear <add>endure</add> to hear in Parliament: and <add>thus <gap/></add> not being<lb/>
                    <del>But where is the necessity in this case?</del> But in this case, what necessity? where is it? <hi rend="superscript">[+]</hi>
able to endure it, he said nothing to Parliament about<lb/>
                      <note><add>[+]</add>But t'other day<lb/>
<add>a</add> legislature for New South Wales&#x2014;he sent out <add>a Ships Captain</add> a Governor<lb/>
                            powers were obtained from<lb/>
<add><del>to New South Wales</del></add> to plant a Colony <add>to</add> at the Antipodes to make bricks without<lb/>
                            us, for a quite different<lb/>
straw to govern without powers <add>to the Antipodes to govern without powers:</add> to encounter malefactors<lb/>
                            arm of punishment the<lb/>
in the character of a malefactor&#x2014;to legislate with a<lb/>
                            <add>penitentiary</add> system, to be established here<lb/>
halter about his neck&#x2014;<add>to make bricks without straw&#x2014;</add>to govern without powers. Without<lb/>
                            at home. What is the<lb/>
powers?&#x2014;<hi rend="underline">Yes</hi>, my Lord; without powers. To this whoever<lb/>
                            matter with <del><gap/> <gap/></del> that system?<lb/>
it is that is governing in that country, is governing<lb/>
                            why not keep to it?</note>
without powers.</p>
                        No: if your<lb/>
<note>What is this mighty benefit<lb/>
                        Colony can not be planted, without planting despotism in<lb/>
for the purchase of which<lb/>
                        the bosom of it <gap/> let it remain unplanted:<add>[*]2</add><note><add>[+]2</add> and leave New<lb/>
we are thus called upon to<lb/>
                            South Wales to its<lb/>
make a sacrifice of our<lb/>
                            Bidiagals and<lb/>
dearest prejudices, with the<lb/>
                            <del>Kang</del> kangaroos.</note>
soundest reasons for their<lb/>
                        Such<lb/>
support?</note>
                        was the language that <add>in the natural course of things might/would be expected to be</add> <del>might have been</del> heard in Parliament:<lb/>
                        such was the language M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Pitt was afraid of<lb/>
                        hearing in Parliament. Such was the language <add>dear</add> M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Pitt<lb/>
                        <add>having nothing to say in answer to it</add> could not bear <add>endure</add> to hear <del><gap/></del> in Parliament: and not being <lb/>
                        <gap/> it was, that the Captain of a ship <add>[+]</add> was <gap></gap><del><gap></gap></del>
                        <note><del><add>[+]3</add> to the Antipodes</del><lb/>
                            (as if a country<lb/>
                            <del>bigger</del> <add>larger</add> than Europe<lb/>
                            were like a ship)<lb/>
                            But, not to lose sight<lb/>
                            for a moment of a distinction<lb/>
                            which it is so<lb/>
                            difficult for the mind of<lb/>
                            man to keep in view&#x2014;<lb/>
                            I mean only without legal<lb/>
                            powers: without any other<lb/>
                            than those powers which are<lb/>
                            so much more to M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Pitt's <gap/><lb/>
                            than legal ones.</note><lb/>
                        able to endure it, he said nothing to Parliament about<lb/>
                        <add>a</add> legislature for New South Wales&#x2014;he sent out <add>a Ships Captain</add> a Governor<lb/>
                        <add><del>to New South Wales</del></add> to plant a Colony at <add>to</add> the Antipodes to make bricks without<lb/>
                        straw to govern without powers <add>to the Antipodes to govern without powers:</add> to encounter malefactors<lb/>
                        in the character of a malefactor&#x2014;to legislate with a<lb/>
                        halter about his neck&#x2014;<add>to make bricks without straw&#x2014;</add>to govern without powers. Without<lb/>
                        powers?&#x2014;<hi rend="underline">Yes</hi>, my Lord; without powers. To this hour<lb/>
                        whoever it is that is governing in that country, is governing<lb/>
                        without powers. </p>
 


<note><add>+</add> But t'other day<lb/>
powers were obtained from<lb/>
us, for a quite different<lb/>
arm of punishment the<lb/>
<add>penitentiary</add> system, to be established here<lb/>
at home. What is the<lb/>
matter with that system?<lb/>
why not keep it</note>


<note><add>+2</add> and leave New<lb/>
South Wales to its<lb/>
Bidiagals and<lb/>
<del>Kang</del> kangaroos.</note>


<note><add>+3</add> to the Antipodes<lb/>
(as if a country<lb/>
<add>larger</add> <del>bigger</del> than Europe<lb/>
were like a ship)<lb/>
But, not to lose sight<lb/>
for a moment of a distinction<lb/>
which it is so<lb/>
difficult for the mind of<lb/>
man to keep in view&#x2014;<lb/>
I mean only without legal<lb/>
powers: without any other<lb/>
than those powers which are<lb/>
so much more to M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Pitt's <gap/><lb/>
than legal ones.</note>


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N.S. Wales
6. Conduct
1. No Legislation
3. Causes

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They were afraid to
propose to Parliament
a Constitution so important
for an
establishment which
would not have
borne examining
into in other respects.

In New South Wales their power of legislation, if created by
law, and by law vested any where, must have (it would seem) be vested
in a single hand.

Destined to that use, and to be established in that place
no plan occurred to them in which the constitution of the Colony could
the Penitentiary Colony could not be established on any apparent ground of
tolerable security, without lodging the power of legislation
in a single hand.

[+][+]Had why, as in the other ..ges Here then was another feature which for fear and
shame they durst not lay open expose to the view of Parliament.
Parliament might said Cui bono? it might have been said? Where is the necessity
—what the use of this unseemly measure? Why call upon
us to give a sanction to a form of government which
so long as it exists, exhibits a is one uninterrupted perpetual violation of
those constitutional principles which form our very cradles
we have been all of us taught to hold so dear cling to with enthusiastic fondness2What is this mighty benefit as cried?
for the purchase of which
we are thus called upon to
make a sacrifice of our
dearest prejudices, with the
soundest reasons for their
support?
Why
call upon us to give our sanction to such a precedent?
In case of necessity yes: necessity is paramount to law.
But where is the necessity in this case? But in this case, what necessity? where is it? [+] [+]But t'other day
powers were obtained from
us, for a quite different
arm of punishment the
penitentiary system, to be established here
at home. What is the
matter with that system?
why not keep to it?
No: if your
Colony can not be planted, without planting despotism in
the bosom of it let it remain unplanted:[*]2[+]2 and leave New
South Wales to its
Bidiagals and
Kang kangaroos.
Such
was the language that in the natural course of things might/would be expected to be might have been heard in Parliament:
such was the language Mr Pitt was afraid of
hearing in Parliament. Such was the language dear Mr Pitt
having nothing to say in answer to it could not bear endure to hear in Parliament: and not being
it was, that the Captain of a ship [+] was [+]3 to the Antipodes
(as if a country
bigger larger than Europe
were like a ship)
But, not to lose sight
for a moment of a distinction
which it is so
difficult for the mind of
man to keep in view—
I mean only without legal
powers: without any other
than those powers which are
so much more to Mr Pitt's
than legal ones.

able to endure it, he said nothing to Parliament about
a legislature for New South Wales—he sent out a Ships Captain a Governor
to New South Wales to plant a Colony at to the Antipodes to make bricks without
straw to govern without powers to the Antipodes to govern without powers: to encounter malefactors
in the character of a malefactor—to legislate with a
halter about his neck—to make bricks without straw—to govern without powers. Without
powers?—Yes, my Lord; without powers. To this hour
whoever it is that is governing in that country, is governing
without powers.





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1802-06-18

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116

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panopticon versus new south wales

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187

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n. s. wales

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d6 / f43

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jeremy bentham

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