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<p>9 Jan<hi rend="superscript">y</hi> 1802</p>
<head>Grounds of Relinquishment. Botany Bay.</head>
<note>1<lb/>Grounds of Relinquishment<lb/>New<lb/>South Wales.</note>
<p>They would have said or <add>stammered out</add> something about Botany<lb/>Bay: I suppose so: that, as being the<lb/>furthest place in the world that an excuse<lb/>could have been fetched from, was the place<lb/>pretended upon as your Lordship says, as<lb/>the place that was to find them in excuses:<lb/>they had as your Lordship will see been<lb/>hammering at it already: the first floor of<lb/>the Treasury had held <add>come to an understanding</add> common with the second<lb/>floor, and they had ventured to talk about<lb/>it in whispers. But in these whispers<lb/>the conversation had expired: <add>for though</add> neither<lb/>every thing depended upon <del>it, neither</del><lb/> <del>party daring to open its mouth in Parliament</del><lb/>the communication, and there had been<lb/><gap/> in abundance for the making of it, neither<lb/>party had dared to open its mouth upon the<lb/>subject in Parliament.</p>
<note><hi rend="underline">Botany Bay</hi> to cease<lb/>after the Prison Improvements<lb/>the badness of the reasoning<lb/>in the future use offering<lb/>inferences with regard<lb/>to the latter.</note>


<note>This the better <lb/>place to fetch<lb/>false <gap/><lb/>from us being<lb/>the most distant<lb/>and out of sight.</note>


<note>2<lb/>For the purpose<lb/>of the argument<lb/> no matter what the<lb/>state of that Colony<lb/>really was but<lb/>what they thought of<lb/>it.</note>
<p><add>Of</add> Respecting the real estate of that six-monthly<lb/>distant establishment, and its comparison as <add>value in the character</add><lb/>an instrument of reform and economy in<lb/>comparison with the <add>rival</add> <del>nascent</del> establishment which<lb/>it was to be employ'd to crack in embryo<lb/>it is not necessary to the argument that I should<lb/><del>I shall not for the moment</del> attempt to engage<lb/>your Lordship's notice. The question in point<lb/>at present, is&#x2014;not <add>merely</add> what that establishment<lb/> is or was in itself, but <add>also</add> what <del>they thought</del> <lb/><add>it appeared</add> <del>of it</del> to be to them who had determined to<lb/>make the best and <add>turn it to this account</add> to make the most of it.</p>
<note><add>+</add> One improvement on the general<lb/>question of systematic fraud &amp; perjury </note>
<note>What the establishment <add>Colony</add><lb/>really was <add>in reality</add> is one thing<lb/>what <del>they the</del> it was in their<lb/>own opinions is another.<lb/><del>Both</del> Each point has its distinct<lb/>use: the former as to what<lb/>shall be done in regard to<lb/> the two rival establishments<lb/>the other as to what will<lb/>be the <gap/> of Parliament<lb/>and the public towards those<lb/>who for this purpose pretend <add>profess to have</add> be looked upon the establishment at the <gap/> as that which ought to be made separate from the same establishment under their eyes.</note>


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9 Jany 1802

Grounds of Relinquishment. Botany Bay. 1
Grounds of Relinquishment
New
South Wales.

They would have said or stammered out something about Botany
Bay: I suppose so: that, as being the
furthest place in the world that an excuse
could have been fetched from, was the place
pretended upon as your Lordship says, as
the place that was to find them in excuses:
they had as your Lordship will see been
hammering at it already: the first floor of
the Treasury had held come to an understanding common with the second
floor, and they had ventured to talk about
it in whispers. But in these whispers
the conversation had expired: for though neither
every thing depended upon it, neither
party daring to open its mouth in Parliament
the communication, and there had been
in abundance for the making of it, neither
party had dared to open its mouth upon the
subject in Parliament.

Botany Bay to cease
after the Prison Improvements
the badness of the reasoning
in the future use offering
inferences with regard
to the latter.

This the better
place to fetch
false
from us being
the most distant
and out of sight.


2
For the purpose
of the argument
no matter what the
state of that Colony
really was but
what they thought of
it.

Of Respecting the real estate of that six-monthly
distant establishment, and its comparison as value in the character
an instrument of reform and economy in
comparison with the rival nascent establishment which
it was to be employ'd to crack in embryo
it is not necessary to the argument that I should
I shall not for the moment attempt to engage
your Lordship's notice. The question in point
at present, is—not merely what that establishment
is or was in itself, but also what they thought
it appeared of it to be to them who had determined to
make the best and turn it to this account to make the most of it.

+ One improvement on the general
question of systematic fraud & perjury


What the establishment Colony
really was in reality is one thing
what they the it was in their
own opinions is another.
Both Each point has its distinct
use: the former as to what
shall be done in regard to
the two rival establishments
the other as to what will
be the of Parliament
and the public towards those
who for this purpose pretend profess to have be looked upon the establishment at the as that which ought to be made separate from the same establishment under their eyes.



Identifier: | JB/116/233/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.

Date_1

1802-01-09

Marginal Summary Numbering

1-2

Box

116

Main Headings

panopticon versus new south wales

Folio number

233

Info in main headings field

grounds of relinquishment 3. botany bay

Image

001

Titles

Category

text sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

d1

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

Marginals

jeremy bentham

Paper Producer

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

ID Number

37766

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