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<p>Treasury Chambers 24<hi rend='superscript'>th</hi> March 1801</p>
<p>Treasury Chambers 24<hi rend='superscript'>th</hi> March 1801</p>
<p>Sir<lb/> Having laid before the Lords Commissioners of His <sic>Majestys</sic> Treasury a Letter <lb/>from the Duke of Portland, together with sundry other Papers respecting the Contract for erecting <lb/>a Penitentiary House and maintaining the Convicts, I am commanded by their Lordships<lb/> to desire you will state, under what terms you are willing to Contract for building a<lb/> Penitentiary House for <hi rend='underline'>500 Persons</hi>, <hi rend='superscript'>+</hi> <note><hi rend='superscript'>+</hi> See Note to B below: N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 3 &#x2014; Mr. Bentham's Note in the letter <add>written</add> 28 Mar 1801</note> and for maintaining the Convicts, if the measure<lb/> should be resolved upon: and if, upon consideration of that proposal the plan should<lb/> be relinquished altogether, my Lords desire <hi rend='underline'>you will inform them<hi rend='superscript'>||</hi> <note><hi rend='superscript'>||</hi> Their Lordships will have no such trouble. &#x2014; They have no powers for any such <lb/>thing: &#x2014; nor <hi rend='underline'>could</hi> have, without a petition from me to <hi rend='underline'>Parliament</hi>. &#x2014; When I petition, it will be for an Address for the execution of the Law, not for compensation for the <lb/>breach of it. &#x2014;</note> what compensation <lb/>you conceive yourself entitled to for your expenses and Loss of Time in preparing for the Undertaking.<lb/> I am Ac&#x2014; </p>
<p>Sir<lb/> Having laid before the Lords Commissioners of His <sic>Majestys</sic> Treasury a Letter <lb/>from the Duke of Portland, together with sundry other Papers respecting the Contract for erecting <lb/>a Penitentiary House and maintaining the Convicts, I am commanded by their Lordships<lb/> to desire you will state, under what terms you are willing to Contract for building a<lb/> Penitentiary House for <hi rend='underline'>500 Persons</hi>, <hi rend='superscript'>+</hi> and for maintaining the Convicts, if the measure<lb/> should be resolved upon: and if, upon consideration of that proposal the plan should<lb/> be relinquished altogether, my Lords desire <hi rend='underline'>you will inform them</hi> <hi rend='superscript'>||</hi> what compensation <lb/>you conceive yourself entitled to for your expenses and Loss of Time in preparing for the Undertaking.<lb/> I am Ac&#x2014; </p>
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


<p><hi rend='superscript'>+</hi> See Note to B below: N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 3 &#x2014; Mr. Bentham's Note in the letter <add>written</add> 28 Mar 1801</p>


<p><hi rend='superscript'>||</hi> Their Lordships will have no such trouble. &#x2014; They have no powers for any such <lb/>thing: &#x2014; nor <hi rend='underline'>could</hi> have, without a petition from me to <hi rend='underline'>Parliament</hi>. &#x2014; When I petition, it will be for an Address for the execution of the Law, not for compensation for the <lb/>breach of it. &#x2014;</p>


<head>B. (Copy) N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 4<lb/> M<hi rend='superscript'>r</hi> Long to M<hi rend='superscript'>r</hi> Bentham &#x2014;</head>


<p>Treasury Chambers 25<hi rend='superscript'>th</hi> March 1800.</p>
<p>Sir.<lb/> Having laid before the Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury a Letter<lb/>  from the Duke of Portland relative to the number of Convicts which the <sic>Panoptican</sic>,<lb/> proposed to be erected by you is intended to accommodate, I have received their Lordships<lb/> commands to acquaint you that the proposed building of a <sic>Panoptican</sic> is to be calculated to accommodate <hi rend='underline'>Two Thousand</hi> Persons. I am Ac. </p>


<head>N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 5<lb/> M<hi rend='superscript'>r</hi> <sic>Benthams</sic> 2<hi rend='superscript'>d</hi> Note in the above Letter, <add>written the</add> 28 March 1801</head>


<p><hi rend='underline'>Three years ago</hi> the Committee of Finance <hi rend='underline'>assumed</hi> compensation, besides <hi rend='underline'>1000</hi> <lb/>Prisoners: <hi rend='underline'>now</hi>, the idea is &#x2014; to give <hi rend='underline'>500 without</hi> compensation, or compensation <hi rend='underline'>for</hi> <lb/>the 500. But compensation is impossible. See my Evidence. &#x2014; [as presented <lb/>in the 28<hi rend='superscript'>th</hi> Report of the Committee of Finance A<hi rend='superscript'>u</hi> 1748.</p>


<head>N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 6<lb/> M<hi rend='superscript'>r</hi> Bentham's <del>f</del> Note on N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 4. written 27 Aug. 1802.</head>


<p>This was in answer to a letter of mine written more than seven months before: <lb/>viz: on the 17<hi rend='superscript'>th</hi> of August 1799: asking of M<hi rend='superscript'>r</hi> Long the number of Prisoners I was to <lb/>build for, that I might make preparations accordingly. This letter is the 7<hi rend='superscript'>th</hi> in the <lb/>list of the <gap/> documents, the publication of which is applied for by N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 10 <hi rend='underline'><foreign>infra</foreign></hi>.
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A No 2
Mr Long to Mr Bentham. —

Treasury Chambers 24th March 1801

Sir
Having laid before the Lords Commissioners of His Majestys Treasury a Letter
from the Duke of Portland, together with sundry other Papers respecting the Contract for erecting
a Penitentiary House and maintaining the Convicts, I am commanded by their Lordships
to desire you will state, under what terms you are willing to Contract for building a
Penitentiary House for 500 Persons, + and for maintaining the Convicts, if the measure
should be resolved upon: and if, upon consideration of that proposal the plan should
be relinquished altogether, my Lords desire you will inform them || what compensation
you conceive yourself entitled to for your expenses and Loss of Time in preparing for the Undertaking.
I am Ac—

+ See Note to B below: No 3 — Mr. Bentham's Note in the letter written 28 Mar 1801

|| Their Lordships will have no such trouble. — They have no powers for any such
thing: — nor could have, without a petition from me to Parliament. — When I petition, it will be for an Address for the execution of the Law, not for compensation for the
breach of it. —

B. (Copy) No 4
Mr Long to Mr Bentham —

Treasury Chambers 25th March 1800.

Sir.
Having laid before the Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury a Letter
from the Duke of Portland relative to the number of Convicts which the Panoptican,
proposed to be erected by you is intended to accommodate, I have received their Lordships
commands to acquaint you that the proposed building of a Panoptican is to be calculated to accommodate Two Thousand Persons. I am Ac.

No 5
Mr Benthams 2d Note in the above Letter, written the 28 March 1801

Three years ago the Committee of Finance assumed compensation, besides 1000
Prisoners: now, the idea is — to give 500 without compensation, or compensation for
the 500. But compensation is impossible. See my Evidence. — [as presented
in the 28th Report of the Committee of Finance Au 1748.

No 6
Mr Bentham's f Note on No 4. written 27 Aug. 1802.

This was in answer to a letter of mine written more than seven months before:
viz: on the 17th of August 1799: asking of Mr Long the number of Prisoners I was to
build for, that I might make preparations accordingly. This letter is the 7th in the
list of the documents, the publication of which is applied for by No 10 infra.




Identifier: | JB/116/391/003"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.

Date_1

1801-03-24

Marginal Summary Numbering

Box

116

Main Headings

panopticon versus new south wales

Folio number

391

Info in main headings field

Image

003

Titles

Category

collectanea

Number of Pages

4

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

Penner

Watermarks

1798 am

Marginals

Paper Producer

frances wright

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

1798

Notes public

copies of letters 1619 and 1630, vol. 6

ID Number

37924

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