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<!-- This page is organised in two columns --> <head>Copper Sheathing</head> <p> Davies has lately seen the bolts taken out of the Persius <lb/> which was sheathed 5 or 6 years ago. &#x2014; The heads of the <lb/> bolts had been covered with oakum &amp; <sic>canvass</sic>, and were<lb/> when taken out perfectly fresh, as were the bolts themselves<lb/> for two or three inches from the head; but farther in <lb/> they were corroded; so much so that bolts an inch <lb/> thick were reduced to the size of a quill.</p> <p> Davies has great doubts about the success of the new <lb/> varnish, but I don't know his reasons &#x2014;</p> <head>Rudders.</head> <p> The Royal George, Narnier, Ocean &amp; Union lost their<lb/>Rudders last October at anchor in Torbay in a gale of <lb/> wind &#x2014; They were hung with the patent Metal which <lb/> it should, seem is not so strong as Iron &#x2014; Neither Dick <lb/> Nor Davies knew whether the Hooks were thicker than <lb/> the Iron ones, not whether the patent metal means <lb/> Keir's Metal &#x2014; </p> <p> Dick, who was Secretary to Gambier in <unclear>America</unclear>, says <lb/> that 9 of their copper pigates came into <unclear>Newark</unclear> at once<lb/> without their Rudders, which had been hung with Iron &#x2014; <lb/> One of them, Davies' said, had had her Rudder new <lb/> hung only a year before &#x2014; </p> <head><unclear>Sailing</unclear></head> <p> Dick was <gap/> <gap/> last summer &#x2014; The <lb/> fleet was 36 Ships <gap/> <gap/> <gap/>.  They all went <lb/> well, even the Princess <gap/> &amp; <gap/> and so equally<lb/> that after a 12 hours chase they were all to <lb/> be found within two miles &#x2014; The <unclear>Edgar</unclear> went to <lb/> Gibraltar last winter with Rodney &amp; outsailed all <lb/> the fleet &#x2014; In her return she was <gap/> to go 13 or <lb/> 14 Knots &#x2014; Last summer with the <gap/> <gap/> bottom<lb/> officers &amp; men she was become one of the worst<lb/> sailers in the Fleet &#x2014; Capt. Elliot tried all possible experiments<lb/> &amp; altered the stowage over &amp; over but to no <lb/> purpose.  The Duke is now one of the best sailers<lb/> among the three Deckers &amp; the Formidable the worst &#x2014; <lb/> The finest ship in the fleet, both for sailing &amp; carrying <lb/> her guns, was the Canada &#x2014; But the favourite ship of <lb/> the whole Navy is, would you have thought it, the <lb/> Arrogant, which was at sea in Oct<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> &amp; Nov<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> last year, <lb/> &amp; is to come out of Dock in the spring with a slight <lb/> repair.</p> <p> W. has since writing the above has been <lb/> spending a week at Brompton.  All parties<lb/> vastly pleased with each other.  Betsy D. he says<lb/> is grown a very fine &amp; <unclear>nimble</unclear> girl.</p><pb/> <p> John Hunter is a <sic>Lieut.<hi rend="superscript">t</hi></sic> on board the Berwick, &amp;<lb/> came home the other day in that ship which had been <lb/> dismasted near Bermuda &#x2014; the Squadron consisting of <lb/> 8 sail brought to in the evening the wind blowing very <lb/> hard at South East &#x2014;  In the night it shifted to the <lb/> North west &amp; blew as hard as before.  Next morning only <lb/> the Hester, Ruby &amp; Bristol were to be seen from it <lb/> Berwick, all dismasted, &amp; with difficulty freeing <lb/> themselves from the Water which came in above, their <lb/> bottoms being tight.  Capt. Stewart would have brought<lb/> them all to England, but it was not thought safe<lb/> &amp; they went for <sic>Jamacia</sic>.  The Grafton, Albion, <lb/> Thunderer &amp; Trident it is supposed put before the <lb/> wind when it shifted.  Hunter describes the storm <lb/> to have been one of the most violent that ever was <lb/> known &#x2014; After the topmast, shrouds &amp; yard were gone<lb/> from the Berwick's main mast the wind tore off the <lb/> Cap, &amp; such was the noise of the storm that when <lb/>the Mast itself some time after broke near the deck, <lb/> Hunter who was standing within a few feet of it did <lb/>not hear the crash.  The Berwick however requires<lb/> little repair &amp; will be at sea again presently.  She <lb/>came home under her Tiny masts nearly as soon as the<lb/> Jamaica fleet, which the Squadron had been escorting<lb/> part of the way &amp; had left a few days before.<lb/> The Berwick carried out only one of Arnold's <gap/> <lb/> Which Arnold told them was gaining 28 seconds a day<lb/> &amp; that they must make that allowance if they would<lb/> not give him time to regulate it &#x2014; The Ship lay some<lb/>time in Torbay &amp; Hunter by a number of observations<lb/> found that it gained exactly 28 seconds a day Whatever<lb/> was the temperature.  They accordingly  made that allowance <lb/> &amp; the watch told them the longitude with the greatest <lb/> exactness &#x2014; At last, I think between the Leeward Islands <lb/> &amp; Jamaica it stopped &#x2014;  The Stopping appears now to <lb/> have been owing to the stop getting in among the <lb/> works, to be sure of preventing which another time <lb/> they propose to do without a stop.</p> <p> All this I had through the medium of Davies, not <lb/> having seen Hunter myself &#x2014; </p> <p> You take no notice in yours of Nov<hi rend="superscript">r</hi><lb/> 21. O.S. of your friend's having <sic>reced</sic> that <lb/> letter which I mentioned to have written him <lb/> <del>the</del> in Oct.<hi rend="superscript">r</hi>  It was directed to him <foreign>a present<lb/> ou en-durant Cape du <unclear>Varpeau</unclear> dans la service </foreign><lb/> &amp; c. Petersbourg.  <gap/> name as well as <gap/></p>
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<head>Copper Sheathing</head> <p> Davies has lately seen the bolts taken out of the Persius <lb/> which was sheathed 5 or 6 years ago. &#x2014; The heads of the <lb/> bolts had been covered with oakum &amp; <sic>canvass</sic>, and were<lb/> when taken out perfectly fresh, as were the bolts themselves<lb/> for two or three inches from the head; but farther in <lb/> they were corroded; so much so that bolts an inch <lb/> thick were reduced to the size of a quill.</p>  
 
<p> Davies has great doubts about the success of the new <lb/> varnish, but I don't know his reasons &#x2014;</p> <head>Rudders.</head>  
<p> The Royal George, Narnier, Ocean &amp; Union lost their<lb/>Rudders last October at anchor in Torbay in a gale of <lb/> wind &#x2014; They were hung with the patent Metal which <lb/> it should, seem is not so strong as Iron &#x2014; Neither Dick <lb/> Nor Davies knew whether the Hooks were thicker than <lb/> the Iron ones, not whether the patent metal means <lb/> Keir's Metal &#x2014; </p>  
 
<p> Dick, who was Secretary to Gambier in America, says <lb/> that 9 of their copper pigates came into N. York at once<lb/> without their Rudders, which had been hung with Iron &#x2014; <lb/> One of them, Davies' said, had had her Rudder new <lb/> hung only a year before &#x2014; </p>  
 
<head><unclear>Sailing</unclear></head>  
<p> Dick was <gap/> <gap/> last summer &#x2014; The <lb/> fleet was 36 Ships <gap/> <gap/> <gap/>.  They all went <lb/> well, even the Princess <gap/> &amp; Buffalo and so equally<lb/> that after a 12 hours chase they were all to <lb/> be found within two miles &#x2014; The <unclear>Edgar</unclear> went to <lb/> Gibraltar last winter with Rodney &amp; outsailed all <lb/> the fleet &#x2014; In her return she was told to go 13 or <lb/> 14 Knots &#x2014; Last summer with the <gap/> <gap/> bottom<lb/> officers &amp; men she was become one of the worst<lb/> sailers in the Fleet &#x2014; Capt. Elliot tried all possible experiments<lb/> &amp; altered the stowage over &amp; over but to no <lb/> purpose.  The Duke is now one of the best sailers<lb/> among the three Deckers &amp; the Formidable the worst &#x2014; <lb/> The finest ship in the fleet, both for sailing &amp; carrying <lb/> her guns, was the Canada &#x2014; But the favourite ship of <lb/> the whole Navy is, would you have thought it, the <lb/> Arrogant, which was at sea in Oct<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> &amp; Nov<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> last year, <lb/> &amp; is to come out of Dock in the spring with a slight <lb/> repair.</p>  
 
<p> W. has since writing the above has been <lb/> spending a week at Brompton.  All parties<lb/> vastly pleased with each other.  Betsy D. he says<lb/> is grown a very fine &amp; <unclear>nimble</unclear> girl.</p><pb/>  
 
<p> John Hunter is a <sic>Lieut.<hi rend="superscript">t</hi></sic> on board the Berwick, &amp;<lb/> came home the other day in that ship which had been <lb/> dismasted near Bermuda &#x2014; the Squadron consisting of <lb/> 8 sail brought to in the evening the wind blowing very <lb/> hard at South East &#x2014;  In the night it shifted to the <lb/> North west &amp; blew as hard as before.  Next morning only <lb/> the Hester, Ruby &amp; Bristol were to be seen from it <lb/> Berwick, all dismasted, &amp; with difficulty freeing <lb/> themselves from the Water which came in above, their <lb/> bottoms being tight.  Capt. Stewart would have brought<lb/> them all to England, but it was not thought safe<lb/> &amp; they went for <sic>Jamacia</sic>.  The Grafton, Albion, <lb/> Thunderer &amp; Trident it is supposed put before the <lb/> wind when it shifted.  Hunter describes the storm <lb/> to have been one of the most violent that ever was <lb/> known &#x2014; After the topmast, shrouds &amp; yard were gone<lb/> from the Berwick's main mast the wind tore off the <lb/> Cap, &amp; such was the noise of the storm that when <lb/>the Mast itself some time after broke near the deck, <lb/> Hunter who was standing within a few feet of it did <lb/>not hear the crash.  The Berwick however requires<lb/> little repair &amp; will be at sea again presently.  She <lb/>came home under her Tiny masts nearly as soon as the<lb/> Jamaica fleet, which the Squadron had been escorting<lb/> part of the way &amp; had left a few days before.<lb/> The Berwick carried out only one of Arnold's <gap/> <lb/> Which Arnold told them was gaining 28 seconds a day<lb/> &amp; that they must make that allowance if they would<lb/> not give him time to regulate it &#x2014; The Ship lay some<lb/>time in Torbay &amp; Hunter by a number of observations<lb/> found that it gained exactly 28 seconds a day Whatever<lb/> was the temperature.  They accordingly  made that allowance <lb/> &amp; the watch told them the longitude with the greatest <lb/> exactness &#x2014; At last, I think between the Leeward Islands <lb/> &amp; Jamaica it stopped &#x2014;  The Stopping appears now to <lb/> have been owing to the stop getting in among the <lb/> works, to be sure of preventing which another time <lb/> they propose to do without a stop.</p> <p> All this I had through the medium of Davies, not <lb/> having seen Hunter myself &#x2014; </p> <p> You take no notice in yours of Nov<hi rend="superscript">r</hi><lb/> 21. O.S. of your friend's having <sic>reced</sic> that <lb/> letter which I mentioned to have written him <lb/> <del>the</del> in Oct.<hi rend="superscript">r</hi>  It was directed to him <foreign>a present<lb/> ou en-durant Cape du <unclear>Varpeau</unclear> dans la service </foreign><lb/> &amp; c. Petersbourg.  <gap/> name as well as <gap/></p>
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Copper Sheathing

Davies has lately seen the bolts taken out of the Persius
which was sheathed 5 or 6 years ago. — The heads of the
bolts had been covered with oakum & canvass, and were
when taken out perfectly fresh, as were the bolts themselves
for two or three inches from the head; but farther in
they were corroded; so much so that bolts an inch
thick were reduced to the size of a quill.

Davies has great doubts about the success of the new
varnish, but I don't know his reasons —

Rudders.

The Royal George, Narnier, Ocean & Union lost their
Rudders last October at anchor in Torbay in a gale of
wind — They were hung with the patent Metal which
it should, seem is not so strong as Iron — Neither Dick
Nor Davies knew whether the Hooks were thicker than
the Iron ones, not whether the patent metal means
Keir's Metal —

Dick, who was Secretary to Gambier in America, says
that 9 of their copper pigates came into N. York at once
without their Rudders, which had been hung with Iron —
One of them, Davies' said, had had her Rudder new
hung only a year before —

Sailing

Dick was last summer — The
fleet was 36 Ships . They all went
well, even the Princess & Buffalo and so equally
that after a 12 hours chase they were all to
be found within two miles — The Edgar went to
Gibraltar last winter with Rodney & outsailed all
the fleet — In her return she was told to go 13 or
14 Knots — Last summer with the bottom
officers & men she was become one of the worst
sailers in the Fleet — Capt. Elliot tried all possible experiments
& altered the stowage over & over but to no
purpose. The Duke is now one of the best sailers
among the three Deckers & the Formidable the worst —
The finest ship in the fleet, both for sailing & carrying
her guns, was the Canada — But the favourite ship of
the whole Navy is, would you have thought it, the
Arrogant, which was at sea in Octr & Novr last year,
& is to come out of Dock in the spring with a slight
repair.

W. has since writing the above has been
spending a week at Brompton. All parties
vastly pleased with each other. Betsy D. he says
is grown a very fine & nimble girl.


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John Hunter is a Lieut.t on board the Berwick, &
came home the other day in that ship which had been
dismasted near Bermuda — the Squadron consisting of
8 sail brought to in the evening the wind blowing very
hard at South East — In the night it shifted to the
North west & blew as hard as before. Next morning only
the Hester, Ruby & Bristol were to be seen from it
Berwick, all dismasted, & with difficulty freeing
themselves from the Water which came in above, their
bottoms being tight. Capt. Stewart would have brought
them all to England, but it was not thought safe
& they went for Jamacia. The Grafton, Albion,
Thunderer & Trident it is supposed put before the
wind when it shifted. Hunter describes the storm
to have been one of the most violent that ever was
known — After the topmast, shrouds & yard were gone
from the Berwick's main mast the wind tore off the
Cap, & such was the noise of the storm that when
the Mast itself some time after broke near the deck,
Hunter who was standing within a few feet of it did
not hear the crash. The Berwick however requires
little repair & will be at sea again presently. She
came home under her Tiny masts nearly as soon as the
Jamaica fleet, which the Squadron had been escorting
part of the way & had left a few days before.
The Berwick carried out only one of Arnold's
Which Arnold told them was gaining 28 seconds a day
& that they must make that allowance if they would
not give him time to regulate it — The Ship lay some
time in Torbay & Hunter by a number of observations
found that it gained exactly 28 seconds a day Whatever
was the temperature. They accordingly made that allowance
& the watch told them the longitude with the greatest
exactness — At last, I think between the Leeward Islands
& Jamaica it stopped — The Stopping appears now to
have been owing to the stop getting in among the
works, to be sure of preventing which another time
they propose to do without a stop.

All this I had through the medium of Davies, not
having seen Hunter myself —

You take no notice in yours of Novr
21. O.S. of your friend's having reced that
letter which I mentioned to have written him
the in Oct.r It was directed to him a present
ou en-durant Cape du Varpeau dans la service

& c. Petersbourg. name as well as


Identifier: | JB/539/118/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 539.

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Jeremy Bentham

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