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Hendon 25 Sept. 1794 <hi rend="underline">Not</hi> sent<lb/>
<p>Hendon 25 Sept. 1794 <hi rend="underline">Not</hi> sent</p>
Sir<lb/>J. B. to R<hi rend="superscript">t</hi> Hon. H. Dundas <lb/>Whatever may have been the motive for<lb/>the delay that has intervened in the Penitentiary<lb/>business, <del>I know of who but one that</del> <add>there is one that</add> has been<lb/>expressly avowed to me: viz: the <add>apprehended</add> expence of the<lb/>purchase money for the ground at Battersea, <del>my</del><lb/>3 or 4 times as much <add>according to M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Long</add> as the originally assessed price<lb/>of 6600: say for arguments sake £20,000, <del>of</del><lb/><del>rather</del> <add>which</add> the extra-price which is the ground of the delay<lb/>is £ 13, <del>4</del><add>5</add>00.<lb/> . . . . . .<lb/>Two thousand and upwards used to be the average<lb/>number of Convicts kept on board the Hulks,<lb/><add>say for arguments sake 2,000.  If there be an error in this,<lb/>it is no wilful one on my part, and lies in your power to correct it.</add><lb/>
 
<p>Sir<lb/>J. B. to R<hi rend="superscript">t</hi> Hon. H. Dundas <lb/>Whatever may have been the motives for<lb/>the delay that has intervened in the Penitentiary<lb/>business, <del>I know of who but one that</del> <add>there is one that</add> has been<lb/>expressly avowed to me: viz: the <add>apprehended</add> expence of the<lb/>purchase money for the ground at Battersea, <del>say</del><lb/>3 or 4 times as much <add>according to M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Long</add> as the originally assessed price<lb/>of 6600: say for arguments sake £20,000, <del>of</del><lb/><del>rather</del> <add>which</add> the extra-price which is the ground of the delay<lb/>is £ 13, <del>4</del><add>5</add>00.<lb/></p>
 
<p>Two thousand and upwards used to be the average<lb/>number of Convicts kept on board the Hulks,<lb/><add>say for argument's sake 2,000.  If there be an error in this,<lb/>it is no wilful one on my part, and lies in your power to correct it.</add><lb/></p>
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|These under M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Campbel <del>was</del> cost  per annum
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| <del>24</del> <add>42</add> ,000
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£18, 000 a year is then what you have been paying<lb/>for deliberating about £13,500.  Your deliberation<lb/>has <add>already</add> lasted <add>in effect</add> 2 years: for two seasons have been lost to<lb/>me. £36,000 <add><del>thus</del></add> of the public money is what <del>you</del> <add>has</add><lb/><del>have been paying</del> <add>been paid already</add> for the satisfaction of deliberating<lb/>whether engagements shall be fulfilled.  On whose<lb/>account ? With regard to <del>L</del> the first £18,000 <del>The</del> <add>is</add><lb/><add>out of dispute</add> answer is a clear one - on Lord Spencer's.  <add>His</add> My<lb/><add>Lordship avows it. my</add>correspondence with hi<del>s</del><add>m</add> <del>Lordship</del> shews it.  With regard<lb/>to the second £18,000, the answer is not equally clear:<lb/>I can not pretend <add>take upon me</add> to give it.  I can not speak thus <add>volunteer such</add><lb/>lightly <add>a charge</add>.  It might be unfounded: it might be unsafe: for<lb/>indeed to my partial eyes it would be scandalous if untrue. <lb/> <note><del>But</del> I</note><lb/><pb/>
£18, 000 a year is then what you have been paying<lb/>for deliberating about £13,500.  Your deliberation<lb/>has <add>already</add> lasted <add>in effect</add> 2 years: for two seasons have been lost to<lb/>me. £36,000 <add><del>then</del></add> of the public money is what <del>you</del> <add>has</add><lb/><del>have been paying</del> <add>been paid already</add> for the satisfaction of deliberating<lb/>whether engagements shall be fulfilled.  On whose<lb/>account ? With regard to <del>£</del> the first £18,000 The <add>is</add><lb/><add>out of dispute</add> answer is a clear one - on Lord Spencer's.  <add>His</add> My<lb/><add>Lordship <del><gap/> it: my</del> avows it: my</add>correspondence with hi<del>s</del><add>m</add> <del>Lordship</del> shews it.  With regard<lb/>to the second £18,000, the answer is not equally clear:<lb/>I can not pretend <add>take upon me</add> to give it.  I can not speak thus <add>volunteer such</add><lb/>lightly <add>a charge</add>.  It might be unfounded: it might be unsafe: for<lb/>indeed to my partial eyes it would be scandalous if untrue. <lb/> <note><del>But</del> I</note></p><pb/>




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Hendon 25 Sept. 1794 Not sent

Sir
J. B. to Rt Hon. H. Dundas
Whatever may have been the motives for
the delay that has intervened in the Penitentiary
business, I know of who but one that there is one that has been
expressly avowed to me: viz: the apprehended expence of the
purchase money for the ground at Battersea, say
3 or 4 times as much according to Mr Long as the originally assessed price
of 6600: say for arguments sake £20,000, of
rather which the extra-price which is the ground of the delay
is £ 13, 4500.

Two thousand and upwards used to be the average
number of Convicts kept on board the Hulks,
say for argument's sake 2,000. If there be an error in this,
it is no wilful one on my part, and lies in your power to correct it.

These under Mr Campbel was cost per annum 24 42 ,000
These under me would cost - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 17 24 ,000
Difference - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 18 ,000

£18, 000 a year is then what you have been paying
for deliberating about £13,500. Your deliberation
has already lasted in effect 2 years: for two seasons have been lost to
me. £36,000 then of the public money is what you has
have been paying been paid already for the satisfaction of deliberating
whether engagements shall be fulfilled. On whose
account ? With regard to £ the first £18,000 The is
out of dispute answer is a clear one - on Lord Spencer's. His My
Lordship it: my avows it: mycorrespondence with hism Lordship shews it. With regard
to the second £18,000, the answer is not equally clear:
I can not pretend take upon me to give it. I can not speak thus volunteer such
lightly a charge. It might be unfounded: it might be unsafe: for
indeed to my partial eyes it would be scandalous if untrue.
But I


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Identifier: | JB/541/590/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 541.

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1794-09-25

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Jeremy Bentham

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