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<head>1820 <sic>Feb.</sic> 23<lb/>Radicalism not dangerous.</head> <!-- marginal notes in pencil --> <p><note><sic>ult<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></sic><lb/>III Experience<lb/>II Ireland</note><lb/>2 <note>&sect;.6 Coincidence with Radicalism<lb/>1. Secrecy</note></p> <p><note>1.  As a <hi rend="underline">secrecy of<lb/>suffrage</hi>.  In Irish<lb/>Association, instead<lb/>of the <add>proposed</add> course, which without<lb/>the effect would<lb/>be valueless, look for<lb/>the effect.  <gap/><lb/>this was secured <add>in some degree</add> by<lb/>local <del>circ</del> and temporary <lb/>circumstances.</note></p> <p>1. First causes <hi rend="underline">secrecy of suffrage</hi>.  Here instead of the <del>effect</del> <add>causes</add><lb/>that <del>effect without</del> <add>cause</add> which if not followed by the effect, could not<lb/>be of any use or value, we must look for the effect: we must<lb/>look for freedom &#x2014; or in a word for genuineness.  We shall find<lb/>it in the particular state of things in question secured <del>by <gap/><lb/>and that to a consider</del> by circumstances <add>other causes</add>: secured to a considerable<lb/>degree but still <del>to</del> far short of that degree of perfection in which<lb/>it would be secured by secrecy of suffrage.</p> <p>It is not in itself that secrecy of suffrage is of any<lb/>use.  The only use that it is of is <add>lies</add> in the effects of which it is productive:<lb/>to the community at large, <add>freedom and thence</add> genuineness of the<lb/>votes, and thereby assurance that <add>in each instance</add> the vote given is conformable<lb/>to the universal interest what in the conception of the<lb/>Votes is the universal interest; to the individual security<lb/>against that <add>coercion and</add> oppression which might otherwise be exercised<lb/>on him, on account of the service he has or would<lb/>have <add>so</add> rendered to the universal interest, namely by preventing<lb/>him from rendering it, or punishing him for having<lb/><del><gap/></del> rendered it as the case may be.</p> <p><note>4<lb/><gap/> entry<lb/>into the Association<lb/> was <foreign><hi rend="underline">pro <unclear>tanto</unclear></hi></foreign> <sic>compleat</sic><lb/>proof of the requisite<lb/>freedom and<lb/>genuineness.  In its<lb/>then preternatural<lb/>strength, public opinion is<lb/>formed a <hi rend="underline">shield</hi> which<lb/>under other circumstances<lb/>would not have<lb/>sufficed.</note></p> <p>In the case in question, freedom had place then from<lb/>the very nature of the case, for never <add>no more</add> could have been a member<lb/>of the Association, and as such given his Vote on the choice of<lb/><del><gap/></del> the delegates sent by it,<!-- brackets in pencil --> [ who had not been rendered a<lb/>member of it by his own inward <add>real</add> inclination] except by <lb/>the <add>unalloyed</add> pleasure he took in becoming so, or the effective resistance<lb/>he had applied to all counteracting motives.  That among<lb/>those who appeared in that character there were many who<lb/>in ordinary cases would have felt themselves <add>himself</add> dependent <add>more or less</add> on<lb/>the pleasure of this or that individual or number of individuals<lb/>in the character of patron or patrons, can not be matter of doubt.<lb/>But in <add>by</add> the circumstance of the time they <add>he</add> found several shields against<lb/><add>oppression</add><lb/><!-- continues in margin --> oppression from that cause.<lb/>The <add>In the</add> form of public opinion<lb/><del>would be</del> <add>the dependant</add> found one</p>






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1820 Feb. 23
Radicalism not dangerous.

ulto
III Experience
II Ireland

2 §.6 Coincidence with Radicalism
1. Secrecy

1. As a secrecy of
suffrage
. In Irish
Association, instead
of the proposed course, which without
the effect would
be valueless, look for
the effect.
this was secured in some degree by
local circ and temporary
circumstances.

1. First causes secrecy of suffrage. Here instead of the effect causes
that effect without cause which if not followed by the effect, could not
be of any use or value, we must look for the effect: we must
look for freedom — or in a word for genuineness. We shall find
it in the particular state of things in question secured by
and that to a consider
by circumstances other causes: secured to a considerable
degree but still to far short of that degree of perfection in which
it would be secured by secrecy of suffrage.

It is not in itself that secrecy of suffrage is of any
use. The only use that it is of is lies in the effects of which it is productive:
to the community at large, freedom and thence genuineness of the
votes, and thereby assurance that in each instance the vote given is conformable
to the universal interest what in the conception of the
Votes is the universal interest; to the individual security
against that coercion and oppression which might otherwise be exercised
on him, on account of the service he has or would
have so rendered to the universal interest, namely by preventing
him from rendering it, or punishing him for having
rendered it as the case may be.

4
entry
into the Association
was pro tanto compleat
proof of the requisite
freedom and
genuineness. In its
then preternatural
strength, public opinion is
formed a shield which
under other circumstances
would not have
sufficed.

In the case in question, freedom had place then from
the very nature of the case, for never no more could have been a member
of the Association, and as such given his Vote on the choice of
the delegates sent by it, [ who had not been rendered a
member of it by his own inward real inclination] except by
the unalloyed pleasure he took in becoming so, or the effective resistance
he had applied to all counteracting motives. That among
those who appeared in that character there were many who
in ordinary cases would have felt themselves himself dependent more or less on
the pleasure of this or that individual or number of individuals
in the character of patron or patrons, can not be matter of doubt.
But in by the circumstance of the time they he found several shields against
oppression
oppression from that cause.
The In the form of public opinion
would be the dependant found one




Identifier: | JB/137/178/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.

Date_1

1820-02-23

Marginal Summary Numbering

3-4

Box

137

Main Headings

radicalism not dangerous

Folio number

178

Info in main headings field

radicalism not dangerous

Image

001

Titles

Category

text sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

e2

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

[[watermarks::[prince of wales feathers] i&m 1818]]

Marginals

jeremy bentham

Paper Producer

arthur wellesley, duke of wellington

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

1818

Notes public

ID Number

46895

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