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<head>1810 <sic>Jan</sic> 10<lb/>Radicalism not dangerous</head> <!-- marginal notes in pencil --><p><note>2<hi rend="superscript">o</hi><lb/>III. Experience<lb/>II. Ireland</note><lb/>4</p> <p><note>10<lb/>Elements of radicalism<lb/>how far had they place<lb/>in the case of Ireland?<lb/>1. Secrecy.  None:<lb/>none being necessary<lb/>to secure <del>gains</del><lb/>against spuriousness.<lb/>Voters, more on condition<lb/>to inspire them be<lb/>exposed to terrorism</note></p> <p>Now then as to the several elements or fixtures of radicalism<lb/>how far had they place in the case of Ireland.</p> <p>1.  Secrecy of suffrage, none. But why none?  <add>Only</add> Because<lb/><del>that was the state of things</del> there was no need of it.<lb/><add>In Elections</add> the use of secrecy <del>of suffrage</del> is to secure suffrage<lb/>from being rendered spurious <del>either</del> by terrorism or by corruption,<lb/>or by both. <add>together</add>  But in the case of Ireland there<lb/>was no place for terrorism: <add>intimidation</add> the men who voted were at the <add>all the time</add><lb/>same time trained and armed: and their situation more<lb/>of a nature to inspire terror than to be subject to it.</p> <p><note>11<lb/> 2. Universality &#x2014;<lb/>This virtual.  To<lb/>universality is &#x2014; not<lb/>when all <hi rend="underline">do</hi> vote,<lb/>but when all may<lb/>vote, not being excluded<lb/>by regulation,<lb/>and disqualification;<lb/>particularly pecuniary.<lb/>So it will be seen<lb/>it was with the<lb/>Irish Volunteers</note></p> <p>2. Universality of suffrage: <sic>i.e.</sic> <add>namely</add> virtual universality.<lb/>this we shall find having place. .   The case of virtual<lb/>universality is not the <del>same</del> case where all who are<lb/>disposed to vote actually do vote <add>act</add>but where all who are<lb/>disposed to vote <add>act</add> may do so if they please: not being excluded<lb/>by any unsurmountable <add>irresistible/by law, by the measure of</add>power <del>by</del> <add>by regulation</add> nor by <add>any</add> special<lb/<disqualification, and in particular not by any of a pecuniary<lb/>nature.  Such will be seen to be the case of those<lb/><del><gap/></del> by whom <add>in the case in question</add> the democratic ascendency was possessed and<lb/><gap/> &#x2014; the <add>freely</add> associated Volunteers of Ireland.</p>         
<head>1810 <sic>Jan</sic> 10<lb/>Radicalism not dangerous</head> <!-- marginal notes in pencil --><p><note>2<hi rend="superscript">o</hi><lb/>III. Experience<lb/>II. Ireland</note><lb/>4</p> <p><note>10<lb/>Elements of radicalism<lb/>how far had they place<lb/>in the case of Ireland?<lb/>1. Secrecy.  None:<lb/>none being necessary<lb/>to secure <del>gains</del><lb/>against spuriousness.<lb/>Voters, more on condition<lb/>to inspire than be<lb/>exposed to terrorism</note></p> <p>Now then as to the several Elements or features of radicalism<lb/>how far had they place in the case of Ireland.</p> <p>1.  Secrecy of suffrage, none. But why none?  <add>Only</add> Because<lb/><del>that was not the state of things</del> there was no need of it.<lb/><add>In Elections</add> The use of secrecy <del>of suffrage</del> is to secure suffrage<lb/>from being rendered spurious <del>either</del> by terrorism or by corruption,<lb/>or by both. <add>together</add>  But in the case of Ireland there<lb/>was no place for terrorism: <add>intimidation</add> the men who voted were at the <add>all the time</add><lb/>same time trained and armed: and their situation more<lb/>of a nature to inspire terror than to be subject to it.</p> <p><note>11<lb/> 2. Universality &#x2014;<lb/>This virtual.  So<lb/>universality is &#x2014; not<lb/>when all <hi rend="underline">do</hi> vote,<lb/>but when all may<lb/>vote, not being excluded<lb/>by regulation,<lb/>and disqualification;<lb/>particularly pecuniary.<lb/>So it will be seen<lb/>it was with the<lb/>Irish Volunteers</note></p> <p>2. Universality of suffrage: <sic>i.e.</sic> <add>namely</add> virtual universality.<lb/>this we shall find having place. . The case of virtual<lb/>universality is not the <del>case</del> case where all who are<lb/>disposed to vote actually do vote <add>act</add> but where all who are<lb/>disposed to vote <add>act</add> may do so if they please: not being excluded<lb/>by any unsurmountable <add>irresistible/by law, by the measure of</add> power <del>by</del> <add>by regulation</add> nor by <add>any</add> special<lb/>disqualification, and in particular not by any of a pecuniary<lb/>nature.  Such will be seen to be the case of those<lb/><del><gap/></del> by whom <add>in the case in question</add> the democratic ascendency was possessed and<lb/>exercised &#x2014; the <add>freely</add> associated Volunteers of Ireland.</p>         






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1810 Jan 10
Radicalism not dangerous

2o
III. Experience
II. Ireland

4

10
Elements of radicalism
how far had they place
in the case of Ireland?
1. Secrecy. None:
none being necessary
to secure gains
against spuriousness.
Voters, more on condition
to inspire than be
exposed to terrorism

Now then as to the several Elements or features of radicalism
how far had they place in the case of Ireland.

1. Secrecy of suffrage, none. But why none? Only Because
that was not the state of things there was no need of it.
In Elections The use of secrecy of suffrage is to secure suffrage
from being rendered spurious either by terrorism or by corruption,
or by both. together But in the case of Ireland there
was no place for terrorism: intimidation the men who voted were at the all the time
same time trained and armed: and their situation more
of a nature to inspire terror than to be subject to it.

11
2. Universality —
This virtual. So
universality is — not
when all do vote,
but when all may
vote, not being excluded
by regulation,
and disqualification;
particularly pecuniary.
So it will be seen
it was with the
Irish Volunteers

2. Universality of suffrage: i.e. namely virtual universality.
this we shall find having place. . The case of virtual
universality is not the case case where all who are
disposed to vote actually do vote act but where all who are
disposed to vote act may do so if they please: not being excluded
by any unsurmountable irresistible/by law, by the measure of power by by regulation nor by any special
disqualification, and in particular not by any of a pecuniary
nature. Such will be seen to be the case of those
by whom in the case in question the democratic ascendency was possessed and
exercised — the freely associated Volunteers of Ireland.




Identifier: | JB/137/418/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.

Date_1

1820-01-10

Marginal Summary Numbering

10-11

Box

137

Main Headings

radicalism not dangerous

Folio number

418

Info in main headings field

radicalism not dangerous

Image

001

Titles

Category

text sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

e4

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

[[watermarks::[prince of wales feathers] i&m 1818]]

Marginals

jeremy bentham

Paper Producer

arthur wellesley, duke of wellington

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

1818

Notes public

ID Number

47135

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