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<p>1819 Dec</p>. 14
<head>1819 Dec<lb/>
<p>Radicalism not dangerous</p>  
Radicalism not dangerous</head> <!-- in pencil --> <p>+ + &sect;.2<lb/>(4) (2)</p>
<note><!-- Pencil not -->4 or 10<lb/>
<p><!-- marginal notes in pencil --><note>4 <del>or 10</del><lb/>
I Per July Speech<lb/>
I Per July Speech<lb/>
persons whose<lb/>
persons whose<lb/>
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could only<lb/>
could only<lb/>
aggravate . . .:<lb/>
aggravate . . .:<lb/>
and who on <unclear>prospect</unclear><lb/>
and who on pretence<lb/>
of reform have<lb/>
of reform have<lb/>
no object but subvesive<lb/>
no object but subversion<lb/>
of the constitution<lb/>
of the constitution<lb/><!-- continues after addition to the main text -->their "<hi rend="underline">machinations</hi>"</note></p>
 
<note><del>In the July Speech
there "<hi rend="underline">machinations</hi>",<lb/>
there "<hi rend="underline">machinations</hi>",<lb/>
Lords and Gentlemen<lb/>
Lords and Gentlemen<lb/>
in conjunction with<lb/>
in conjunction with<lb/>
Magistracy are<lb/>
Magistracy are<lb/>
called upon to "<hi rend="underline">defend</hi>"</note><lb/>
called upon to "<hi rend="underline">defeat</hi>"</note>


<p><del>In the July Speech a set of <gap/> are alluded</del><lb/>
<p><del>In the July Speech a set of <gap/> are alluded<lb/>
<del>to be the description of</del> Those whose projects, if successful<lb/>
to by the description of</del> <add><gap/></add> Those whose projects, if successful<lb/>
<add>(says the July Speech,)</add> "could only aggravate the evils which it is professed to<lb/>
<add>(says the July Speech,)</add> "could only aggravate the evils which it is professed to<lb/>
"remedy: and who, <hi rend="underline">on pretence of reform</hi>, have really<lb/>
"remedy: and who, <hi rend="underline">on pretence of reform</hi>, have really<lb/>
"<hi rend="underline">no other object</hi> than the subversion of out happy<lb/>
"<hi rend="underline">no other object</hi> than the subversion of out happy<lb/>
"Constitution.  <del>The <gap/></del> <add>To</add> those persons <del>in whom</del> "<hi rend="underline">machinations</hi>"<lb/>
"Constitution.  <del>The <gap/></del> <add>To</add> those persons <del>in whom</del> "<hi rend="underline">machinations</hi>"<lb/>
are imputed, and these machinations <del><gap/>, that</del> Lords and Gentleman <note>are <add>immediately</add> called upon,<lb/>
are imputed, and these machinations <del><unclear>it is</unclear>, that</del> Lords and Gentleman <!-- continues into margin -->are <add>immediately</add> called upon,<lb/>
<add><del>or</del></add> in co-operation with<lb/>
" in co-operation with<lb/>
"the Magistrate"-<lb/>
"the Magistracy"-<lb/>
"to use" their "utmost<lb/>
"to use" their "utmost<lb/>
"endeavours" <del><gap/></del>"<lb/>
"endeavours" <del>to defeat</del>"<lb/>
"on return to" their<lb/>
"on return to" their<lb/>
"several Con<gap/>" to<lb/>
"several <unclear>Counties</unclear>" to<lb/>
defeat."]</note></p>
defeat."<!-- paragraph mark --></p>


<p>That the person here glanced at were the radicalists,<lb/>
<p>That the persons here glanced at were the <sic>radicalists,</sic><lb/>
will not <del>I suppose</del> it is believed, be disputed. But " <add>"<gap/></add> the<lb/>
will not <del>I suppose</del> it is believed, be disputed. But " <add>"under</add> the<lb/>
"purchase of reform, really have no other object" &amp;c? by<lb/>
"pretence of reform, have really have no other object" &amp;c? by<lb/>
this what is it that is meant?</p>
this what is it that is meant?</p>


<p><del>Two <gap/> and but two can be conceived</del><lb/>
<p><del>Two meaning and but two can be conceived</del><lb/>
<del>1. One is that though</del></p>
<del>1. One is that though</del></p>


<p>On this occasion, <add>by Lords and Gentleman</add> in their aggregate<lb/>
<p><note>5 <del>or 10</del><lb/>
character, <del>no <gap/></del> nothing is <add>as yet</add> called upon to be done<lb/>
<del>Therefore</del> So far, so good.  For, <del>one to <gap/> in <gap/> 
</del> <note>5 <del>or 10</del><lb/>
No more increases<lb/>
No more increases<lb/>
as yet called  for<lb/>
as yet called  for<lb/>
So far so good.</note><lb/>
So far so good.</note></p>
how great so ever the cost, by the mere <hi rend="underline"><gap/></hi>  at producing<lb/>
<p><note>6 <del>or 11</del><lb/>
<add>it, unaccompanied with any probability of if its being produced</add><del>-ducing it</del> no sufficient warrant for any coercive or<lb/>
For <hi rend="underline">any</hi> at mischief<lb/>
otherwise <sic>burthensome</sic>  measure <add>could assuredly <del>could surely</del> be afforded.</add> <del><gap/> with propriety be</del> <note>6 <del>or 11</del><lb/>
For any at mischief<lb/>
without probability <lb/>
without probability <lb/>
as ground for measure.<lb/>
no ground for measures.<lb/>
This reason not being maintained.</note><lb/>
This reason not long maintained.</note></p>
<del>called for.  <gap/> with <gap/> <gap/> itself <gap/></del><lb/>
 
of <del>mischief <gap/> <add>just</add> ground for doing any thing <gap/> formed</del>.<lb/>
<p>On this occasion, <del><gap/></del> <add>by Lords and Gentleman</add> in their aggregate<lb/>
Unhappily this reason did not <add><del>have not always been <gap/></del></add> <del>always</del> long continue</p>
character, <del>no means</del> nothing is <add>as yet</add> called upon to be done<lb/>
<note>7 <del>or 12</del><lb/>
<del>Therefore</del> So far, so goodFor, <del>as to more or <gap/> </del><lb/>
how great so ever the evil, by the mere <hi rend="underline">aim</hi>  at producing<lb/>
<add>it, unaccompanied with any probability of if its being produced</add><del>it</del> no sufficient warrant for any coercive or<lb/>
otherwise <sic>burthensome</sic> measure <add>could assuredly <del>could surely</del> be afforded.</add> <del>nor with propriety be<lb/>  
called for.  For with <add>at mischief</add> without mischief or probability<lb/>
of mischief <gap/> <add>just</add> ground for doing any thing <gap/> formed</del>.<lb/>
Unhappily this reason did not <del>always <add>have not always been <gap/></add>always</del> long continue</p>
 
<p><note>7 <del>or 12</del><lb/>
On radicalism as yet<lb/>
On radicalism as yet<lb/>
an imputation: <hi rend="underline">pretence</hi><lb/>
no imputation: <hi rend="underline">pretence</hi><lb/>
of it the alledged<lb/>
of it the <sic>alledged</sic><lb/>
accompaniment of the <lb/>
accompaniment of the <lb/>
machinations.</note>
machinations.</note></p>
 
<p><del>On</del><add>Here, as yet , on <del>neither the rad</del></add> reform itself <del>no <gap/> imputation is cast</del><lb/>
<p><del>On</del><add>Here, as yet , on <del>neither the rad</del></add> reform itself <del>no <gap/> imputation is cast</del><lb/>
neither in the radical shape nor in any other , is<lb/>
neither in the radical shape nor in any other , is<lb/>
any <add>determinate</add> <del>direct</del> imputation directly cast.  It is only on<lb/>
any <del>direct</del> <add>determinate</add> imputation directly cast.  It is only on<lb/>
pretence of reform that the machinations are alledged <lb/>
pretence of reform that the "machinations are <sic>alledged</sic> <lb/>
to have been carried on</p>
to have been carried on</p>


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the subversion will be<lb/>
the subversion will be<lb/>
produced: the objecct<lb/>
produced: the objecct<lb/>
is - <gap/> this<lb/>
is &#x2014; <gap/> this<lb/>
to be believed</note><lb/>
to be believed</note><lb/>


Is it than that <gap/> by radical reform supposing<lb/>
<p>Is it than that <unclear>as</unclear> by radical reform supposing<lb/>
the "machinations" in question "successful" the "subversion"
the "machinations" in question "successful" the "subversion"<lb/>
in practice would be produced?
in question would be produced? This is not directly<lb/>
said,  But this is what is <del>intimated in</del> <add>at any rate insinuated</add> and it is <del>for</del> in the<lb/>
view of causing every body to believe it, that this <del>phrase</del> <add>language is employed.</add> <del>is said</del></p>
<p>For the object <del><gap/> at is th</del> declared to be "<hi rend="underline">aimed</hi> at, is "the <add>subversion</add><lb/><!-- continues in margin --> "subversion of our<lb/>
happy Constitution.<lb/>
Of the <del>mischief</del> <add>evil</add> in<lb/>
question the <sic>alledged</sic><lb/>
cause <del><gap/></del><add><del>thing</del></add> can<lb/>
not therefore but be a<lb/>
design, by which<lb/>
the Constitution would<lb/><!-- continues along the right hand edge of the page --> be affected: and that by parliamentary reform in any shape the Constitution would <add>in a certain way</add> be effected <lb/>
can not be denied: and this was the only design in fact by which any such effect could be produced.  By depredation and violent destruction of property <add>let evil</add> <del>mischief</del> [+]<lb/> <add>[+] in ever so vast an amount<lb/>
have been produced, the <lb/>
Constitution would remain untouched.</add></p>


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1819 Dec

Radicalism not dangerous

+ + §.2
(4) (2)

4 or 10
I Per July Speech
persons whose
projects if successful
could only
aggravate . . .:
and who on pretence
of reform have
no object but subversion
of the constitution
their "machinations"

In the July Speech there "machinations",
Lords and Gentlemen
in conjunction with
Magistracy are
called upon to "defeat"

In the July Speech a set of are alluded
to by the description of
Those whose projects, if successful
(says the July Speech,) "could only aggravate the evils which it is professed to
"remedy: and who, on pretence of reform, have really
"no other object than the subversion of out happy
"Constitution. The To those persons in whom "machinations"
are imputed, and these machinations it is, that Lords and Gentleman are immediately called upon,
" in co-operation with
"the Magistracy"-
"to use" their "utmost
"endeavours" to defeat"
"on return to" their
"several Counties" to
defeat."

That the persons here glanced at were the radicalists,
will not I suppose it is believed, be disputed. But " "under the
"pretence of reform, have really have no other object" &c? by
this what is it that is meant?

Two meaning and but two can be conceived
1. One is that though

5 or 10
No more increases
as yet called for
So far so good.

6 or 11
For any at mischief
without probability
no ground for measures.
This reason not long maintained.

On this occasion, by Lords and Gentleman in their aggregate
character, no means nothing is as yet called upon to be done
Therefore So far, so good. For, as to more or
how great so ever the evil, by the mere aim at producing
it, unaccompanied with any probability of if its being producedit no sufficient warrant for any coercive or
otherwise burthensome measure could assuredly could surely be afforded. nor with propriety be
called for. For with at mischief without mischief or probability
of mischief just ground for doing any thing formed
.
Unhappily this reason did not always have not always been always long continue

7 or 12
On radicalism as yet
no imputation: pretence
of it the alledged
accompaniment of the
machinations.

OnHere, as yet , on neither the rad reform itself no imputation is cast
neither in the radical shape nor in any other , is
any direct determinate imputation directly cast. It is only on
pretence of reform that the "machinations are alledged
to have been carried on

8 or 13
Not said but intimated
by radicalism, of the machinations
are if successful,
the subversion will be
produced: the objecct
is — this
to be believed

Is it than that as by radical reform supposing
the "machinations" in question "successful" the "subversion"
in question would be produced? This is not directly
said, But this is what is intimated in at any rate insinuated and it is for in the
view of causing every body to believe it, that this phrase language is employed. is said

For the object at is th declared to be "aimed at, is "the subversion
"subversion of our
happy Constitution.
Of the mischief evil in
question the alledged
cause thing can
not therefore but be a
design, by which
the Constitution would
be affected: and that by parliamentary reform in any shape the Constitution would in a certain way be effected
can not be denied: and this was the only design in fact by which any such effect could be produced. By depredation and violent destruction of property let evil mischief [+]
[+] in ever so vast an amount
have been produced, the
Constitution would remain untouched.



Identifier: | JB/137/092/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.

Date_1

1819-12-14

Marginal Summary Numbering

4-8

Box

137

Main Headings

radicalism not dangerous

Folio number

092

Info in main headings field

radicalism not dangerous

Image

001

Titles

Category

text sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

c4 / c2 / e2

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

[[watermarks::[prince of wales feathers] i&m 1818]]

Marginals

jeremy bentham

Paper Producer

arthur wellesley, duke of wellington

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

1818

Notes public

ID Number

46809

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