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<p>1823. Sept. 21.<lb/>
''This Page Has Not Been Transcribed Yet''
<head>Constitutional Code.<lb/>
 
III.  Rationale Questions</head></p>
 
<p>Note (a)  9.<lb/>
 
9.  Cause – the earliness,<lb/>
thence scantiness and<lb/>
rudeness of the law where<lb/>
no such complication<lb/>
of interests, as since.<lb/>
(See Delay and complication<lb/>
Table).</p>
<p>10.<lb/>
10.  Cause II.  Gap in the<lb/>
evidence-collecting system<lb/>
by exclusion of litigant's<lb/>
testimony.</p>
<p>11.<lb/>
11.  Cause of this gap,<lb/>
Lawyer's artifice.<lb/>
In Saxon times and<lb/>
long after, sole Judicatories<lb/>
local:  and in each<lb/>
the form popular.  Judges<lb/>
all free men:  President<lb/>
alone (Sheriff of County)<lb/>
Locatee of King or Aristocrats.</p>
<p>12.<lb/>
12.  Present, all persons, so<lb/>
all parties.  Each of course<lb/>
allowed, each naturally<lb/>
eager to relate for himself<lb/>
every thing in his own<lb/>
favour to extract every<lb/>
thing of that tendency<lb/>
from the other.</p>
<p>13.<lb/>
13.  Thus &#x2014; in small<lb/>
debt causes:  the only causes<lb/>
allowed to the few<lb/>
small debt judicatories.<lb/>
<hi rend="underline">Then</hi>, all causes were<lb/>
comparatively small.</p>
<p>14.<lb/>
14.  After Norman Conquest,<lb/>
King set up judicatories<lb/>
with authority<lb/>
co-extensive with his<lb/>
own, line of separation<lb/>
logical:  viz. into Penal,<lb/>
Civil, and Financial.</p>
<pb/>
<p>15.<lb/>
15.  Communication so<lb/>
difficult, tedious and<lb/>
dangerous, most men<lb/>
were eager to be permitted<lb/>
to attend by substitute.<lb/>
Hence conducting Attornies<lb/>
and Serjeants,<lb/>
sharing in sinister interest<lb/>
with King's Judges.</p>
<p>16.<lb/>
16.  Universal object now,<lb/>
maximizing delay, vexation<lb/>
and expence for<lb/>
profit out of the expence.</p>
<p>17.<lb/>
17.  Light afforded by Glanville,<lb/>
Chief Justiciary of<lb/>
Henry 2<hi rend="superscript">d</hi>.  In profession,<lb/>
it covers the whole field<lb/>
of law, substantive and<lb/>
adjective.  In fact, it is<lb/>
nearly confined to the<lb/>
law as to excuses for non-appearance.<lb/>
Why? because<lb/>
when parties appeared,<lb/>
the dispute was<lb/>
as good as settled:  just<lb/>
as now in small debt<lb/>
courts and causes.</p>
<p>18.<lb/>
18.  Topics as to which this<lb/>
was next to nothing.<lb/>
1.  Species of suit, as determined<lb/>
by the object<lb/>
of the demand.<lb/>
2.  Different stages of the<lb/>
suit, as determined by inseparable<lb/>
circumstances,<lb/>
or incidental occurrences.</p>
<p>19.<lb/>
19.  To both Gaps from<lb/>
Rome-bred law, or supply<lb/>
was accepted.  In Rome-bred<lb/>
Churchmen's hands,<lb/>
was ready made power<lb/>
adequate to any gap.</p>
<pb/>
<p>20.<lb/>
<add>20.</add> 1.  No cause too complex<lb/>
for their habits.  Through<lb/>
their hands after owner's<lb/>
death, passed all moveable<lb/>
property:  to pious<lb/>
uses, the destination:<lb/>
and none so pious as<lb/>
their's.<lb/>
2  No evidence to difficulty<lb/>
attainable for their<lb/>
power, if adequately paid<lb/>
for the exercise of it:  this<lb/>
they necessarily were, by<lb/>
their not receiving it, but<lb/>
in a written shape, thro'<lb/>
penmen subject to them.</p>
<p>21.<lb/>
21.  To the above Lay Judges,<lb/>
when Jury Trial procedure<lb/>
was first organized, this<lb/>
channel of profit was<lb/>
not open:  Scribes were<lb/>
not enough numerous.</p>
<p>22.<lb/>
22.  The best evidence the<lb/>
Lay Judicatories would<lb/>
not receive in any shape,<lb/>
because by custom, they<lb/>
could not receive it in a<lb/>
shape profitable to themselves<lb/>
and their confederates.</p>
<p>23.<lb/>
23.  The Church Judicatories<lb/>
having their share received<lb/>
it:  but in a shape<lb/>
so profitable to them, and<lb/>
thence so burthensome<lb/>
to litigants, and so ill-adapted<lb/>
to correct persuasion,<lb/>
that the ends of justice<lb/>
in the aggregate were<lb/>
not better served in this<lb/>
case than the other.</p>
<p>24.<lb/>
24.  In both these branches,<lb/>
having for it's object, lawyers<lb/>
profit, at the expence<lb/>
of litigants and of justice,<lb/>
English law leaves thus<lb/>
narrow, the extent of<lb/>
Jury authority.</p>
<pb/>
<p>25.<lb/>
25.  Having for it's object<lb/>
the ends of justice, this<lb/>
Code gives to the authority<lb/>
of it's Quasi Jury, an authority<lb/>
co-extensive with<lb/>
the demand.</p>
<p>26.<lb/>
26.  Of course, the procedure<lb/>
correspondent to it, will<lb/>
neither put exclusion upon<lb/>
evidence from the most<lb/>
instructive source, nor<lb/>
receive it in any less apt:<lb/>
but in default of the power<lb/>
of obtaining it in any<lb/>
more apt shape.</p>
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1823. Sept. 21.
Constitutional Code.
III. Rationale Questions

Note (a) 9.
9. Cause – the earliness,
thence scantiness and
rudeness of the law where
no such complication
of interests, as since.
(See Delay and complication
Table).

10.
10. Cause II. Gap in the
evidence-collecting system
by exclusion of litigant's
testimony.

11.
11. Cause of this gap,
Lawyer's artifice.
In Saxon times and
long after, sole Judicatories
local: and in each
the form popular. Judges
all free men: President
alone (Sheriff of County)
Locatee of King or Aristocrats.

12.
12. Present, all persons, so
all parties. Each of course
allowed, each naturally
eager to relate for himself
every thing in his own
favour to extract every
thing of that tendency
from the other.

13.
13. Thus — in small
debt causes: the only causes
allowed to the few
small debt judicatories.
Then, all causes were
comparatively small.

14.
14. After Norman Conquest,
King set up judicatories
with authority
co-extensive with his
own, line of separation
logical: viz. into Penal,
Civil, and Financial.


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15.
15. Communication so
difficult, tedious and
dangerous, most men
were eager to be permitted
to attend by substitute.
Hence conducting Attornies
and Serjeants,
sharing in sinister interest
with King's Judges.

16.
16. Universal object now,
maximizing delay, vexation
and expence for
profit out of the expence.

17.
17. Light afforded by Glanville,
Chief Justiciary of
Henry 2d. In profession,
it covers the whole field
of law, substantive and
adjective. In fact, it is
nearly confined to the
law as to excuses for non-appearance.
Why? because
when parties appeared,
the dispute was
as good as settled: just
as now in small debt
courts and causes.

18.
18. Topics as to which this
was next to nothing.
1. Species of suit, as determined
by the object
of the demand.
2. Different stages of the
suit, as determined by inseparable
circumstances,
or incidental occurrences.

19.
19. To both Gaps from
Rome-bred law, or supply
was accepted. In Rome-bred
Churchmen's hands,
was ready made power
adequate to any gap.


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20.
20. 1. No cause too complex
for their habits. Through
their hands after owner's
death, passed all moveable
property: to pious
uses, the destination:
and none so pious as
their's.
2 No evidence to difficulty
attainable for their
power, if adequately paid
for the exercise of it: this
they necessarily were, by
their not receiving it, but
in a written shape, thro'
penmen subject to them.

21.
21. To the above Lay Judges,
when Jury Trial procedure
was first organized, this
channel of profit was
not open: Scribes were
not enough numerous.

22.
22. The best evidence the
Lay Judicatories would
not receive in any shape,
because by custom, they
could not receive it in a
shape profitable to themselves
and their confederates.

23.
23. The Church Judicatories
having their share received
it: but in a shape
so profitable to them, and
thence so burthensome
to litigants, and so ill-adapted
to correct persuasion,
that the ends of justice
in the aggregate were
not better served in this
case than the other.

24.
24. In both these branches,
having for it's object, lawyers
profit, at the expence
of litigants and of justice,
English law leaves thus
narrow, the extent of
Jury authority.


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25.
25. Having for it's object
the ends of justice, this
Code gives to the authority
of it's Quasi Jury, an authority
co-extensive with
the demand.

26.
26. Of course, the procedure
correspondent to it, will
neither put exclusion upon
evidence from the most
instructive source, nor
receive it in any less apt:
but in default of the power
of obtaining it in any
more apt shape.


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Date_1

1823-09-01

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9-26

Box

034

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constitutional code

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037

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001

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ch. quasi jury / functions / note (a)

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1

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recto

Page Numbering

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Penner

john flowerdew colls

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