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<p><!-- pencil -->11 Jan<hi rend="superscript">y</hi> 1802<lb/>
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<head>3 Jail Improvements</head></p>
 
<p>No, <del><gap/></del> says M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> King – I won't have it so –<lb/>
 
I will have them in the Country <del>Garden</del> Gaols. –<lb/>
 
Parliament says the expence shall be <del>borne</del> taken out<lb/>
of the national purse:  borne <del>by</del> in common by subjects<lb/>
of all classes in the best <add>fairest</add> proportions that can be devised.<lb/>
No: says M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> King: <del>they</del> it shall be taken out of <del>the</del><lb/>
each County purse:  thrown altogether upon <del>that</del> the every<lb/>
day man and more overloaded class of the contributors<lb/>
to the Poor's rates.  <del>We</del><hi rend="superscript">⊞</hi> <note><hi rend="superscript">⊞</hi> The contributors<lb/>
to the Poor Rates are<lb/>
a class long ago<lb/>
overloaded – and every<lb/>
day more and more<lb/>
overloaded in a still<lb/>
more unconscionable<lb/>
degree.  Well<lb/>
and what of that</note>  But what are the contributors<lb/>
to the Poor Rates, and what is the Burthen <add>are the burthens</add><lb/>
thrown upon them to me?  Nothing: – something to them<lb/>
perhaps, but nothing at all to me.  And here we have<lb/>
a species of peculation, which though little hitherto<lb/>
observed hitherto is not now, but which I hope<lb/>
your Lordship agrees with me, deserves a remedy.<lb/>
Creating or suffering a greater expence out of the<lb/>
fund, for the sake of exonerating another:  <del><gap/></del><lb/>
treating as nothing an expence for which a man<lb/>
is not responsible, for the sake of keeping down<lb/>
one <del>who</del> for which he is responsible.</p>
<p>My notion, my Lord, mistaken as I have found<lb/>
<del>it ever since I have</del> <add>from the time that I have had</add> to deal with office, my<lb/>
notion my Lord had been that a Secretary of the<lb/>
Treasury, or even the Chief Lord <del>and</del> an Under<lb/>
Secretary of State, or even an Upper one, was<lb/>
as much bound by an Act of Parliament, as I<lb/>
<del>am</del> <add><del>was</del> myself was.</add>  I know well enough, that till the Act was<lb/>
made, it depended pretty much upon <del>persons</del> <add>individuals</add> of those<lb/>
classes, as in <del><gap/></del> nature of things it must and<lb/>
ought to depend <add>upon them</add> whether any such Act of Parliament <add>should come to be made:</add>  but <del>when the Act was <add>being</add></del> once made my notion<lb/>
I just confess, <add>young mannish</add> democratic or democratical or whatever<lb/>
else it may be <del>still</del> <add>thought such</add> I must confess, <del>it was <add>such</add></del><lb/>
<add>was</add> – that <del><gap/></del> <add>we</add> had nothing <del><gap/> for it</del> <add>to as with the law,</add> any of us, but toobserve<lb/>
it.<hi rend="superscript">⊞</hi> <note><hi rend="superscript">⊞</hi> I declare to your Lordship<lb/>
from whatever cause it<lb/>
happened – whether from<lb/>
being better and in <unclear>books</unclear><lb/>
than mine – better acquainted<lb/>
with theory than practice,<lb/>
better with what <hi rend="underline">ought</hi> to
<hi rend="underline">be</hi> than what <hi rend="underline">is</hi><lb/>
so it <add>had</add> happened – that according<lb/>
to my conception of the matter<lb/>
it would have been as much<lb/>
in the power of such a man<lb/>
as myself to have rescinded<lb/>
a law or made one, as in an<lb/>
power of a Duke of Portland.<lb/>
Little did I suspect what<lb/>
I have been forced to suspect<lb/>
since, and what I and<lb/>
every other subject of his<lb/>
Mahesty's who has nothing<lb/>
better than his own <gap/><lb/>
<unclear>his</unclear> <add>power of the </add> <gap/> <del>for it the <gap/></del><lb/>
for his protection will manufacture much more choice suspect – <add>if this matter should pass off in a <gap/> letter did of <gap/></add> – that in truth and <unclear>prudence</unclear><lb/>
there <del>are</del> <add>our</add> two casts or classes of men in this country – one, which is subject to the laws – another to which the laws are subject.</note></p>
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11 Jany 1802
3 Jail Improvements

No, says Mr King – I won't have it so –
I will have them in the Country Garden Gaols. –
Parliament says the expence shall be borne taken out
of the national purse: borne by in common by subjects
of all classes in the best fairest proportions that can be devised.
No: says Mr King: they it shall be taken out of the
each County purse: thrown altogether upon that the every
day man and more overloaded class of the contributors
to the Poor's rates. We The contributors
to the Poor Rates are
a class long ago
overloaded – and every
day more and more
overloaded in a still
more unconscionable
degree. Well
and what of that
But what are the contributors
to the Poor Rates, and what is the Burthen are the burthens
thrown upon them to me? Nothing: – something to them
perhaps, but nothing at all to me. And here we have
a species of peculation, which though little hitherto
observed hitherto is not now, but which I hope
your Lordship agrees with me, deserves a remedy.
Creating or suffering a greater expence out of the
fund, for the sake of exonerating another:
treating as nothing an expence for which a man
is not responsible, for the sake of keeping down
one who for which he is responsible.

My notion, my Lord, mistaken as I have found
it ever since I have from the time that I have had to deal with office, my
notion my Lord had been that a Secretary of the
Treasury, or even the Chief Lord and an Under
Secretary of State, or even an Upper one, was
as much bound by an Act of Parliament, as I
am was myself was. I know well enough, that till the Act was
made, it depended pretty much upon persons individuals of those
classes, as in nature of things it must and
ought to depend upon them whether any such Act of Parliament should come to be made: but when the Act was being once made my notion
I just confess, young mannish democratic or democratical or whatever
else it may be still thought such I must confess, it was such
was – that we had nothing for it to as with the law, any of us, but toobserve
it. I declare to your Lordship
from whatever cause it
happened – whether from
being better and in books
than mine – better acquainted
with theory than practice,
better with what ought to be than what is
so it had happened – that according
to my conception of the matter
it would have been as much
in the power of such a man
as myself to have rescinded
a law or made one, as in an
power of a Duke of Portland.
Little did I suspect what
I have been forced to suspect
since, and what I and
every other subject of his
Mahesty's who has nothing
better than his own
his power of the for it the
for his protection will manufacture much more choice suspect – if this matter should pass off in a letter did of – that in truth and prudence
there are our two casts or classes of men in this country – one, which is subject to the laws – another to which the laws are subject.


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Date_1

1802-01-11

Marginal Summary Numbering

18

Box

121

Main Headings

Panopticon

Folio number

231

Info in main headings field

3 Jail Improvements

Image

001

Titles

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Text sheet

Number of Pages

1

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Recto"Recto" is not in the list (recto, verso) of allowed values for the "Rectoverso" property.

Page Numbering

D15

Penner

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Marginals

Jeremy Bentham

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Notes public

ID Number

001

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