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<head>EVID. B.  Exclusion Improper Vexation Ch. 1. Self-prejudicing</head></p>
 
<p>&sect;. 1</p>
 
<p>1.<lb/>
 
Second ground of exclusion<lb/>
– avoidance of vexation.<lb/>
First species of evidence<lb/>
excluded on this ground –<lb/>
Self-prejudicing.  In this<lb/>
is included –<lb/>
1. Self prejudicing simply<lb/>
2. Self inculpative<lb/>
3. Self criminative.  p.1.</p>
<p>1.<lb/>
The ground of exclusion<lb/>
is referred to this head,<lb/>
that being in point of<lb/>
reason the only ground<lb/>
discoverable for it.  p.1.</p>
<p>3.<lb/>
Self accusing evidence,<lb/>
the term frequently employed<lb/>
is improper.  p.2.</p>
<p>2.<lb/>
Under the head of cases<lb/>
in which exclusion may<lb/>
be proper, vexation is<lb/>
mentioned in that view:<lb/>
but the mischief to be apprehended<lb/>
from vexation<lb/>
is then understood to be<lb/>
preponderant over the mischief<lb/>
to be apprehended from<lb/>
the impunity consequent on<lb/>
the loss of the evidence in<lb/>
question.  p.2.</p>
<p>4.<lb/>
But from the delivery of<lb/>
the sort of evidence here in<lb/>
question such preponderance<lb/>
never can take place in any<lb/>
single instance:  the vexation<lb/>
produced by this cause being<lb/>
a mere evanescent <del>quality</del><lb/>
quantity:  viz. that which<lb/>
depends on the difference between<lb/>
conviction obtained by the party's<lb/>
own evidence, &amp; d<hi rend="superscript">o.</hi> obtained<lb/>
by any other evidence.  p.2.</p>
<p>5.<lb/>
On this head ulterior<lb/>
argument is mere shadow<lb/>
fighting.  p.3.</p>
<p>6.<lb/>
The prejudice to be combated<lb/>
is peculiar to English<lb/>
law:  the utility of the<lb/>
argument therefore is but<lb/>
total.  p.3.</p>
<p>7.<lb/>
– also temporary:  the<lb/>
prejudice can no more last<lb/>
than the prejudice in favor<lb/>
of ordeal &amp; judicial duelling<lb/>
lasted.<lb/>
Hereafter an argum<hi rend="superscript">t</hi> ag<hi rend="superscript">t</hi><lb/>
the exclusion of self criminating<lb/>
evidence will be as useless as<lb/>
ag<hi rend="superscript">t</hi> judicial astrology or<lb/>
<gap/>.  p.3.</p>
<p>8. irchheneft
On the ground of security<lb/>
ag<hi rend="superscript">t</hi> deception a man is not<lb/>
to be suffered to give evidence<lb/>
in his own cause if he be<lb/>
willing:  on the ground of<lb/>
security against vexation he<lb/>
is not to be called upon to<lb/>
give evidence in his own cause<lb/>
in the supposition of his being<lb/>
unwilling.  The prejudice is<lb/>
carried so far that when he<lb/>
is willing and actually giving<lb/>
evidence which it is apprehended<lb/>
may operate ag<hi rend="superscript">t</hi> him, his<lb/>
mouth is stopped and the<lb/>
Judge makes a merit of<lb/>
stopping it.  p.4.</p>
<pb/>
<p>1.<lb/>
When the punishment extends<lb/>
not beyond the loss of property<lb/>
and liberty the distinction<lb/>
between criminal and non-criminal<lb/>
– penal &amp; non-penal<lb/>
– consequently between<lb/>
self criminating and simply<lb/>
self-prejudicing is<lb/>
purely verbal.<lb/>
&#9758; Quere whether to marginal<lb/>
content this more<lb/>
particular put the details<lb/>
into a Note.  p.5.</p>
<p>2.<lb/>
If in <del><gap/></del> compelling<lb/>
self burthening evidence<lb/>
Equity be right, Common<lb/>
law in refusing to compel<lb/>
it must be wrong.  p.9.</p>
<p>3.<lb/>
Between penal &amp; civil the<lb/>
distinction (to the extent of<lb/>
the burthen imposable by<lb/>
civil) is but verbal.  p.9.</p>
<p>&sect;. 2.</p>
<p><del>&sect;. 2.</del> 1.<lb/>
If instead of the suit<lb/>
in hand the effect of the<lb/>
answer called for be to<lb/>
subject the party to an<lb/>
obligation penal or not<lb/>
penal by means of a<lb/>
distinct suit the reason<lb/>
will be the same.  p.1.</p>
<p>2.<lb/>
So if the deponent instead<lb/>
of a party be a witness.<lb/>
p.2.</p>
<p>3.<lb/>
That a man sho<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> be<lb/>
summoned for this very<lb/>
purpose, is not a natural<lb/>
case, but sho<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> it happen,<lb/>
there is no harm done:<lb/>
No falshood allowed:  no deceit:<lb/>
for if the question be not<lb/>
pertinent to the suit in hand,<lb/>
for that reason it will<lb/>
not be suffered.  p.3.</p>
<pb/>
<p>&sect;. 3.</p>
<p>1.<lb/>
Mischief from this Exclusion,<lb/>
as deduced from the tables.<lb/>
1.  Encrease of Vexation –<lb/>
Avoidance of ideal vexation<lb/>
is the pretence for the exclusion;<lb/>
production of real in<lb/>
abundance, the result.<lb/>
p.1.</p>
<p>2.<lb/>
2.  In many cases degradation<lb/>
of the evidence from regular<lb/>
to makeshift from the<lb/>
same source.  p.2.</p>
<p>3.<lb/>
3.  In other instances total<lb/>
deposition of the evidence<lb/>
from that source.  p.2.</p>
<p>4.<lb/>
4.  Substitution of evidence of <add>from</add><lb/>
the least trustworthy kind <add>source</add><lb/>
(bought evidence of partners<lb/>
in guilt) &amp; that rendered<lb/>
the more untrustworthy<lb/>
by the legislator, viz. by<lb/>
the purchase, to evidence<lb/>
of the most trustworthy<lb/>
kind viz. – confessional.<lb/>
p.3.</p>
<p>5.<lb/>
5.  Hence to punish one malefactor<lb/>
another must be<lb/>
cherished.  p.3.</p>
<p>6.<lb/>
6.  Thence it is that in England<lb/>
Depredators carry on their<lb/>
business in bodies corporate<lb/>
having perpetual succession,<lb/>
an abuse scarce known<lb/>
to other Countries.  p.3.</p>
<p>7.<lb/>
7.  Out of this abuse has<lb/>
grown the system of police<lb/>
which, under the established<lb/>
system of remuneration <unclear>spews</unclear><lb/>
petty and less profitable<lb/>
depredators, till they<lb/>
ripen into more mischievous<lb/>
&amp; profitable ones.  p.3.</p>
<p>8.<lb/>
8.  In the non-penal branch<lb/>
the exclusion operates as<lb/>
a lesson of vice delivered<lb/>
fro the seat of justice.<lb/>
A man is encouraged<lb/>
in the denial actual or virtual<lb/>
of his own hand-writing.<lb/>
p.4.</p>
<p>8(a).<lb/>
If advice to the same<lb/>
effect were given by his<lb/>
professed teacher of morality,<lb/>
a school master, a divine,<lb/>
or moral essay writer,<lb/>
it w<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> deservedly be regarded<lb/>
with abhorrence.  p.5.</p>
<p>9.<lb/>
9.  Then ill grounded distinctions<lb/>
add to the indistinctness<lb/>
and uncognoscibility<lb/>
of the law.<lb/>
p.5.</p>
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7 Mar. 1806
EVID. B. Exclusion Improper Vexation Ch. 1. Self-prejudicing

§. 1

1.
Second ground of exclusion
– avoidance of vexation.
First species of evidence
excluded on this ground –
Self-prejudicing. In this
is included –
1. Self prejudicing simply
2. Self inculpative
3. Self criminative. p.1.

1.
The ground of exclusion
is referred to this head,
that being in point of
reason the only ground
discoverable for it. p.1.

3.
Self accusing evidence,
the term frequently employed
is improper. p.2.

2.
Under the head of cases
in which exclusion may
be proper, vexation is
mentioned in that view:
but the mischief to be apprehended
from vexation
is then understood to be
preponderant over the mischief
to be apprehended from
the impunity consequent on
the loss of the evidence in
question. p.2.

4.
But from the delivery of
the sort of evidence here in
question such preponderance
never can take place in any
single instance: the vexation
produced by this cause being
a mere evanescent quality
quantity: viz. that which
depends on the difference between
conviction obtained by the party's
own evidence, & do. obtained
by any other evidence. p.2.

5.
On this head ulterior
argument is mere shadow
fighting. p.3.

6.
The prejudice to be combated
is peculiar to English
law: the utility of the
argument therefore is but
total. p.3.

7.
– also temporary: the
prejudice can no more last
than the prejudice in favor
of ordeal & judicial duelling
lasted.
Hereafter an argumt agt
the exclusion of self criminating
evidence will be as useless as
agt judicial astrology or
. p.3.

8. irchheneft On the ground of security
agt deception a man is not
to be suffered to give evidence
in his own cause if he be
willing: on the ground of
security against vexation he
is not to be called upon to
give evidence in his own cause
in the supposition of his being
unwilling. The prejudice is
carried so far that when he
is willing and actually giving
evidence which it is apprehended
may operate agt him, his
mouth is stopped and the
Judge makes a merit of
stopping it. p.4.


---page break---

1.
When the punishment extends
not beyond the loss of property
and liberty the distinction
between criminal and non-criminal
– penal & non-penal
– consequently between
self criminating and simply
self-prejudicing is
purely verbal.
☞ Quere whether to marginal
content this more
particular put the details
into a Note. p.5.

2.
If in compelling
self burthening evidence
Equity be right, Common
law in refusing to compel
it must be wrong. p.9.

3.
Between penal & civil the
distinction (to the extent of
the burthen imposable by
civil) is but verbal. p.9.

§. 2.

§. 2. 1.
If instead of the suit
in hand the effect of the
answer called for be to
subject the party to an
obligation penal or not
penal by means of a
distinct suit the reason
will be the same. p.1.

2.
So if the deponent instead
of a party be a witness.
p.2.

3.
That a man shod be
summoned for this very
purpose, is not a natural
case, but shod it happen,
there is no harm done:
No falshood allowed: no deceit:
for if the question be not
pertinent to the suit in hand,
for that reason it will
not be suffered. p.3.


---page break---

§. 3.

1.
Mischief from this Exclusion,
as deduced from the tables.
1. Encrease of Vexation –
Avoidance of ideal vexation
is the pretence for the exclusion;
production of real in
abundance, the result.
p.1.

2.
2. In many cases degradation
of the evidence from regular
to makeshift from the
same source. p.2.

3.
3. In other instances total
deposition of the evidence
from that source. p.2.

4.
4. Substitution of evidence of from
the least trustworthy kind source
(bought evidence of partners
in guilt) & that rendered
the more untrustworthy
by the legislator, viz. by
the purchase, to evidence
of the most trustworthy
kind viz. – confessional.
p.3.

5.
5. Hence to punish one malefactor
another must be
cherished. p.3.

6.
6. Thence it is that in England
Depredators carry on their
business in bodies corporate
having perpetual succession,
an abuse scarce known
to other Countries. p.3.

7.
7. Out of this abuse has
grown the system of police
which, under the established
system of remuneration spews
petty and less profitable
depredators, till they
ripen into more mischievous
& profitable ones. p.3.

8.
8. In the non-penal branch
the exclusion operates as
a lesson of vice delivered
fro the seat of justice.
A man is encouraged
in the denial actual or virtual
of his own hand-writing.
p.4.

8(a).
If advice to the same
effect were given by his
professed teacher of morality,
a school master, a divine,
or moral essay writer,
it wd deservedly be regarded
with abhorrence. p.5.

9.
9. Then ill grounded distinctions
add to the indistinctness
and uncognoscibility
of the law.
p.5.


Identifier: | JB/047/023/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 47.

Date_1

1806-03-07

Marginal Summary Numbering

1-8, 1-3, 1-2, 1-8, 8a, 9

Box

047

Main Headings

evidence

Folio number

023

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[[info_in_main_headings_field::evid. b. [ ] exclusion improper ch. 1 self-prejudicing]]

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001

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modifications

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Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

d1

Penner

john herbert koe

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Marginals

Paper Producer

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

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14891

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