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1830. Sept. 15.
J.B. to France against Peers
Letter II against Peers

+ 67
1 Complication
In law whatsoever is needless
is mischievous.

+ 68
2. Onus on Defenders
If any use in Second Chamber
let its defenders produce
it – silence a confession
of inutility.

+ 69
3 Hereditariness bad.
Should a Second Chamber
be hereditary? this exis
presupposes one ought to exist
per J.B. it ought not –
any addition to representative
body worse
than useless.

+ 70
4. Prejudice from England
Second Chamber begotten
by sinister interest, prejudice
– &c.

+ 71.
5. Prejudice from England.
In England this body seen
to exist together with
less oppression and depredation
and greater
prosperity.

+ 72
6 Causes &c. undistinguished.
Efficient causes – cooperating
causes – obstacles – uninfluencing
circumstances –
Analyse this heap and give
to each circumstance
its place – few competent
to it.

+ 73
7. Prejudice from England
In England two houses.
A foreigner would call
the H. of Lords the Second;
because business is commenced
in Commons.

+ 74
8 Prejudice from England
According to order of time.
Lords first – Commons created in
Hen. 3's reign – called Lower H.

+ 75
9. Prejudice from England
Prosperity of the whole every
where proportioned to
power of the people's deputies,
not of the rich few.

+ 76
10. Prejudice from U.S.
American States (offsets from
England) – cause of form
of government imitation.

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+ 77.
1. Evil 1 Delay
I. Class 1. Unsinister evils.

+ 78
2. Evil 2. Frustration
1. Loss of benefit of measures
only to be effected by a
certain time, which is
consumed by reference
to Second Chamber.

+ 79
3. Good, none.
What good can come from
Second Chamber? The first
being (suppose) the adequate
expression of the
apt people's will, the
Second cannot be more
apt.

+ 80
4. Good none. Precipitation improbable.
Fear of precipitation
ungrounded.

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+ 81
1. Minority preponderant
For delaying a useful
measure small number
sufficient. This danger
unavoidable. Majority
should prevail,
but members-silencing
law incompatible
with nature of the
institution.

+ 82
3. Evil, pure
Pure evil in several shapes
the result of it.

+ 83.
4 Delay of all in the lump
1. Evil from mere existence
of an additional
body, delay of aggregate of business.

+ 84
5 Delay without discussion
Evil great from want
of time for discussions.

85
6 Learn effect from U.S.
Calculation of evil from
delay would be beneficial
– might be derived from
history of U.S. Congress.

86. 7
In this history might be
seen beneficial laws
– here matter of arithmetic
to compute the
delay:– advantages from
bills thrown out.

+ 87
8 Evil from Revellry. Reval. Comes.
2. Evil from disputes
about respective powers.
Business thereby delayed.

+ 88
9 Complication
3. Complication – & concomitant
evils:– divided into
1. Uncognoscibility.
2. Unintelligibility.
When Mischievous
whatsoever is useless

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+  Complication<lb/>
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+is mischievous.</p>
+<p>+ 68<lb/>
+.  Onus on Defenders<lb/>
+If any use in Second Chamber<lb/>
+let its defenders produce<lb/>
+it – silence a confession<lb/>
+of inutility.</p>
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+  Hereditariness bad.<lb/>
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+presupposes one ought to exist<lb/>
+per J.B. it ought not –<lb/>
+any addition to representative<lb/>
+body worse<lb/>
+than useless.</p>
+<p>+ 70<lb/>
+.  Prejudice from England<lb/>
+Second Chamber begotten<lb/>
+by sinister interest, prejudice<lb/>
+– &amp;c.</p>
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+.  Prejudice from England.<lb/>
+In England this body seen<lb/>
+to exist together with<lb/>
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+and greater<lb/>
+prosperity.</p>
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+  Causes &amp;c. undistinguished.<lb/>
+Efficient causes – cooperating<lb/>
+causes – obstacles – uninfluencing<lb/>
+circumstances –<lb/>
+Analyse this heap and give<lb/>
+to each circumstance<lb/>
+its place – few competent<lb/>
+to it.</p>
+<p>+ 73<lb/>
+.  Prejudice from England<lb/>
+In England two houses.<lb/>
+A foreigner would call<lb/>
+the H. of Lords the Second;<lb/>
+because business is commenced<lb/>
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+  Prejudice from England<lb/>
+According to order of time.<lb/>
+Lords first – Commons created in<lb/>
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+Prosperity of the whole every<lb/>
+where proportioned to<lb/>
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+not of the rich few.</p>
+<p>+ 76<lb/>
+.  Prejudice from U.S.<lb/>
+American States (offsets from<lb/>
+England) – cause of form<lb/>
+of government imitation.</p>
+<pb/>
+<p>+ 77.<lb/>
+.  Evil 1 Delay<lb/>
+I.  Class 1.  Unsinister evils.</p>
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+.  Evil 2. Frustration<lb/>
+.  Loss of benefit of measures<lb/>
+only to be effected by a<lb/>
+certain time, which is<lb/>
+consumed by reference<lb/>
+to Second Chamber.</p>
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+expression of the<lb/>
+apt people's will, the<lb/>
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+<p>+ 80<lb/>
+.  Good none.  Precipitation improbable.<lb/>
+Fear of precipitation<lb/>
+ungrounded.</p>
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+<p>+ 81<lb/>
+.  Minority preponderant<lb/>
+For delaying a useful<lb/>
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+sufficient.  This danger<lb/>
+unavoidable.  Majority<lb/>
+should prevail,<lb/>
+but members-silencing<lb/>
+law incompatible<lb/>
+with nature of the<lb/>
+institution.</p>
+<p>+ 82<lb/>
+.  Evil, pure<lb/>
+Pure evil in several shapes<lb/>
+the result of it.</p>
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+  Delay of all in the lump<lb/>
+.  Evil from mere existence<lb/>
+of an additional<lb/>
+body, delay of <add>aggregate of</add> business.</p>
+<p>+ 84<lb/>
+  Delay without discussion<lb/>
+Evil great from want<lb/>
+of time for discussions.</p>
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+  Learn effect from U.S.<lb/>
+Calculation of evil from<lb/>
+delay would be beneficial<lb/>
+– might be derived from<lb/>
+history of U.S. Congress.</p>
+<p>86.  7<lb/>
+In this history might be<lb/>
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+– here matter of arithmetic<lb/>
+to compute the<lb/>
+delay:– advantages from<lb/>
+bills thrown out.</p>
+<p>+ 87<lb/>
+  Evil from Revellry.  <unclear>Reval</unclear>. Comes.<lb/>
+. Evil from disputes<lb/>
+about respective powers.<lb/>
+Business thereby delayed.</p>
+<p>+ 88<lb/>
+  Complication<lb/>
+. Complication – &amp; concomitant<lb/>
+evils:– divided into<lb/>
+.  Uncognoscibility.<lb/>
+.  Unintelligibility.<lb/>
+<del>When</del> Mischievous<lb/>
+whatsoever is useless</p>
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