JB/137/439/001

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1820 Jan.y 24
Radicalism not dangerous

+ III. Experience
II. Ireland
(1) 1 §. The case stated

The case stated as briefly concisely as possible is as follows

or 1
Case stated
1. For six years or more
military happiness in
Volunteers, freely associated,
self training,
self armed.

1. In Ireland for six years or more, reckoning from the
year 1778 exclusive, or perhaps even inclusive, the military
possession of the country was in the hands of the people at
large, freely associated under the name of Volunteers, self-trained,
and for the most part self-armed. (a)

or 2
2. Officers of the highest
stations, chosen by
privates.

2. The officers under whose direction those by whom
under whose command in a military sense they acted
were chiefly men of in the highest stations, chosen by the
privates. (b)

or 3
3 One cause avowed
national defence
against foreign invasion.

Of This association had for one cause, and the
only avowed cause was — the need of such an institution
for the defence of the country against the foreign
enemy apprehended invasion of a foreign enemy.

or 4
4. Another, not avowed
desire of reform in
commercial ands
constitutional law.
Cause of the desire and demand
oppression by Monarch
and English Parliament
on Ireland and its
Parliament.
Cause of the oppression
1. Ireland a conquered country
2. Monarchico aristocratical
ascendency in both countries.

4. Another cause which of course could not be
avowed was — the desire of effecting a change reprieve in the
state of the government: a reform in the state of the laws respecting
commerce: and to scur suec secure permanency
to the change, a reform in the constitutional branch
[of the field] of law. The demand for this reform had for
its cause the oppressiveness of the mode in which Ireland with its Parliaments had all along
been governed by the Monarchs of England with their Parliaments. [+]
[+] That oppressiveness
had had for its cause,
partly the mode in means by which
the sort of union which
had place between the
two countries had been
effected, namely conquered:
partly the
imperfection of the state
of the Government in the
ruling country, the
Monarchical and the
Aristocratical interests
maintaining a constant ascendency over the democratical, and thence the interests of the subject many constantly sacrificed to those the interest or supposed interests of the ruling few, and
not the sacrifice still more grievous in the conquered country than
in the conquering.

5. To a certain length the interests of the democratical
part of the association and those of the aristocratical part
caused were, and were seen to be, the same: therefore the two
interests classes acted in conjunction, and by their conjoined force
oblivious effected what they agreed in desiring.

Identifier: | JB/137/439/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.
Date_1	1820-01-24	Marginal Summary Numbering	or 1 - or 4
Box	137	Main Headings	radicalism not dangerous
Folio number	439	Info in main headings field	radicalism not dangerous
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