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S6 - 11 or 1<lb/>
<p><head>1820 Sept. 2</head></p>


<p>In continuance of the <lb/> union, difficulty real. Preparatory <lb/> operations necessary.<lb/> s. <unclear></unclear> In Creolia, census must<lb/> be taken (an.30) For the<lb/> number of Creole Deputies<lb/> (31.) depends on d.<unclear></unclear> of souls -<lb/> s. <unclear></unclear> 1070,000. In Spain, the<lb/> number is determined by<lb/> the census of 1791 (30.) but,<lb/> per do, it is left uncertain<lb/> whether, in any and what<lb/> Creolia provinces, there is<lb/> one.<lb/>
<head>&sect; <del>Domination impossible</del><lb/>
</p>
Creolia the rightful principal<lb/>
<del>Deputation impossible</del></head>


S7 - 12 or 2<lb/>
<p>86 – 11 or 1<lb/>
In continuance of the <lb/>
union, difficulty real. Preparatory<lb/>
operations necessary.<lb/>
1.  In Creolia, census must<lb/> be taken (Art. 30) For the<lb/>
number of Creole Deputies<lb/>
(31.) depends on d<hi rend="superscript">o.</hi> of souls –<lb/> 1 to 70,000.  In Spain, the<lb/>
number is determined by<lb/>
the census of 1797 (30.) but,<lb/>
per d<hi rend="superscript">o</hi>., it is left uncertain<lb/>
whether, in any and what<lb/>
Creolia provinces, there is<lb/> one.</p>


<p>Where there is a census<lb/> any one, in whose power it<lb/> is, may, by destroying it, or<lb/> suppressing it, prevent the<lb/> sending deputies from that<lb/> province.<lb/> 
<p>87 – 12 or 2<lb/>
</p>
Where there is a census<lb/>  
any one, in whose power it<lb/>  
is, may, by destroying it, or<lb/>  
suppressing it, prevent the<lb/>
sending deputies from that province.</p>


S8 - 13 or 3<lb/>
<p>88 – 13 or 3<lb/>
[&#9758; To be added 2 Sept<lb/>
Where there is no Census<lb/>
none can be made.  Sole<lb/>
authority competent, the<lb/>
Provincial Deputation<lb/> (335.6thly).  Sole mode of<lb/>
appointment for members<lb/>
of Provincial Deputation<lb/>
(per 328) Election by District<lb/> Electors of the Deputies<lb/>
of the Cortes.]</p>


<p>[To be added 1 Sept<lb/> where there is no Census<lb/> none can be made Sole<lb/> authority competent, the<lb/> Provincial Deputation<lb/> (335.<gap/>). Sole mode of<lb/> appointment for members<lb/> of Provincial Deputation<lb/> (per 328) Election by District<lb/> Electors of the Deputies<lb/> of the Corteo <unclear></unclear>]</p>
<p>89 – 14 or 4<lb/>
In no Ultramarine province<lb/>  
can any census be<lb/>
made till its submission<lb/>  
has been perfected and declared:<lb/>  
[any commencement<lb/>  
given to the process<lb/>  
by which the Deputation<lb/>
is to be formed]</p>


S9 - 14 or 4<lb/>
<p><head>Creolia the rightful principal.</head></p>
 
<p>In no Ultramorine <unclear></unclear> province<lb/> can any census be<lb/> made till its submission<lb/> has been perfected and declared.<lb/> [any commencement<lb/> given to the proce <gap/><lb/> by which the Deputation<lb/> is to be formed]</p>
 
<gap/><gap/><gap/><gap/><lb/>
 
<p>2. Per Constitution, <gap/><lb/> numbers of the Creolia<lb/> Deputies will continually<lb/> be on the change. For so<lb/> will that of the Electors,<lb/> thence of the deputies.<lb/> 
In so far as the case, between<lb/> Spain and Spanish<lb/> America, is the same as<lb/> between England and English<lb/> Americas (the emancipated<lb/> part) population<lb/> will increase faster than Spanish.<lb/></p>


<p><del>90 – 15 or 5.</del><lb/>
2.  Per Constitution, 1<lb/>
numbers of the Creolia<lb/>
Deputies will continually<lb/>
be on the change.  For so<lb/>
will that of the Electors,<lb/>
thence of the deputies.<lb/> 
In so far as the case, between<lb/>
Spain and Spanish<lb/>
America, is the same as<lb/>
between England and English<lb/>
America, (the emancipated<lb/>
part) population<lb/>
will increase faster than Spanish.</p>
<pb/>
<pb/>


<gap/><gap/><gap/><gap/>
<p><head>&sect; <del>Domination impossible</del><lb/>Creolia the rightful principal</head></p>
<p>30 Seat of Government where<lb/> shall it be. In Spain, say<lb/> Spaniards, for America, say<lb/> Creoles. Creoles say, Constitution<lb/> Per art 13. "object of<lb/> government ... welfare of<lb/> individuals of which society<lb/> is composed" ie. of all where<lb/> all agree: of the greatest<lb/> number in case of conflict;<lb/> if, in judgement of greatest<lb/> number, it is better the seat<lb/> should be elsewhere than<lb/> in Spain.<lb/></p>
 
<del>92 or 17 or 17</del> 3<lb/>


<p>Per all authorities in Creolia<lb/> is the greatest number.  See<lb/> Population Table in the note (<gap/>)<lb/>
<p> <del>91 or 16 or 6</del> 2<lb/>
In what province, than,<lb/> of Creolia. In Constitution<lb/> not said: proof that the<lb/> <gap/> either saw not, or<lb/> would not appear to see,<lb/> the possibility that, under<lb/> Constitution, the seat would<lb/> be elsewhere than in Spain<lb/> [<gap/> Under a<lb/> deputation, by which shall<lb/> the choice be each time<lb/> made? by the whole Cortes?<lb/> or by only the Creolian part.<lb/></p>
3. Seat of Government where<lb/>  
shall it be?  In Spain, say<lb/>  
Spaniards, In America, say<lb/> <hi rend="underline">Creoles. Creoles say</hi>, Constitution<lb/>  
Per Art. 13. "object of<lb/> government ... welfare of<lb/>  
individuals of which society<lb/>  
is composed" i.e. of all where<lb/>  
all agree:  of the greatest<lb/>  
number in case of conflict;<lb/>  
if, in judgement of greatest<lb/>  
number, it is better the seat<lb/>  
should be elsewhere than<lb/>  
in Spain.</p>


<del>93 or 18 or 8</del> 4<lb/>
<p><del>92 or 17 or 17</del> 3<lb/>
Per all authorities in Creolia<lb/>
is the greatest number. 
See<lb/> Population Table in the Note <hi rend="superscript">(a)</hi><lb/>
In what province, then,<lb/> of Creolia?  In Constitution<lb/>
not said:  proof that the<lb/>
framers either saw not, or<lb/>
would not appear to see,<lb/>
the possibility that, under<lb/>
Constitution, the seat would<lb/>
be elsewhere than in Spain<lb/>
[Add Under a<lb/>
deputation, by which shall<lb/>
the choice be each time<lb/>
made? by the whole Cortes?<lb/>
or by only the Creolian part.</p>


<p>Creolians, to Spanish population<lb/> as two to one, will, or<lb/> ought the representations of the<lb/> two, to consent that their convenience<lb/> should be sacrificed<lb/> to that of the one?<lb/></p>
<p><del>93 or 18 or 8</del> 4<lb/>
Creolians, to Spanish population<lb/>  
as two to one, will, or<lb/>  
ought the representatives of the<lb/>  
two, to consent that their convenience<lb/>  
should be sacrificed<lb/>  
to that of the one?</p>
   
   
<del>94 - 19 or 9</del> 5<lb/>
<p><del>94 or 19 or 9</del> 5<lb/>
 
In lieu or aid of reason,<lb/>  
<p>In lieu or aid of reason,<lb/> shall precedent be looked to?<lb/> After each Union in British<lb/> Empire the seat of Government<lb/> has been in the most populous<lb/> nation.<lb/>
shall precedent be looked to?<lb/>  
[Confessed honour it must<lb/> be, of this arrangement not<lb/> superiority of population, but<lb/> <gap/> of power was the real<lb/> course]<lb/></p>
After each Union in British<lb/>  
 
Empire the seat of Government<lb/>  
<del>95 or 20 or 10</del> 6<lb/>
has been in the most populous<lb/>  
 
nation.<lb/>
<p>As to difficulty: in transforming<lb/> the seat from Europe to<lb/> America, King of Portugal<lb/> found none.<lb/>
[Confessed honour it must<lb/>  
</p>
be, of this arrangement not<lb/>  
superiority of population, but<lb/> d<hi rend="superscript">o.</hi> of power was the real<lb/>  
cause]</p>


<p><del>95 or 20 or 10</del> 6<lb/>
As to difficulty: in transforming<lb/>
the seat from Europe to<lb/>
America, King of Portugal<lb/>
found none.</p>
<pb/>
<pb/>


<gap/>
<p><head>&sect; <del>Domination impossible</del>
 
Creolia the rightful principal</head></p>
<del>96 or <gap/></del> 7<lb/>
 
<p>In this 2nd and the first Cortes<lb/> these <gap/> knots were<lb/> cut: at the next they will have<lb/> been found renewed.<lb/></p>
 
<del>97 or 22 or 12</del> 8<lb/>
 
<p>Seat of Government thus<lb/> changed.  Creolia will be the<lb/> principal, Spain the dependent<lb/> country: the tables will<lb/> be turned: so Creolian relief<lb/> will be sought out at the expense<lb/> of Spain.</p>
 
<del>98 or 23 or 13</del> 9<lb/>


<p>With this prospect, what will<lb/> Cortes do?<lb/>
<p><del>96 or 21 or 11</del> 7<lb/>
1. Set the prosperity of Creolia<lb/> go on unimpeded? If<lb/> then obtains the superiority.<lb/>  
In this 2<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> and the first Cortes<lb/> these Gordian knots were<lb/>  
2. Endeavour to impede it<lb/> to keep Creolians, weak, poor,<lb/> and blind? sad, were they<lb/> willing: secretly<unclear></unclear> would they<lb/> be able. As above, without<lb/> blinding Creolia, they could<lb/> not blind Spain.<lb/></p>
cut: at the next they will have<lb/>  
been found renewed.</p>


99 or 24 or 14<lb/>
<p><del>97 or 22 or 12</del> 8<lb/>
Seat of Government thus<lb/>
changed.  Creolia will be the<lb/>
principal, Spain the dependent<lb/>
country:  the tables will<lb/>
be turned:  to Creolia relief<lb/>
will be sought out at the expence<lb/>
of Spain.</p>


<p>Beneficial as to present peace,<lb/> the reported submissions in<lb/> Spanish America are in<lb/> their tendency detrimental<lb/> by probabilizing<unclear></unclear> the retention<lb/> of the dominion.<lb/></p>
<p><del>98 or 23 or 13</del> 9<lb/>
With this prospect, what will<lb/>  
Cortes do?<lb/>
1.  Let the prosperity of Creolia<lb/>  
go on unimpeded?  It<lb/>
then obtains the superiority.<lb/>  
2.  Endeavour to impede it?<lb/>  
to keep Creolians, weak, poor,<lb/>  
and blind? sad, were they<lb/>  
willing: scarcely would they<lb/>  
be able. As above, without<lb/>
blinding Creolia, they could<lb/>  
not blind Spain.</p>


<p>99 or 24 or 14<lb/>
Beneficial as to present peace,<lb/>
the reported submissions in<lb/>
Spanish America are in<lb/>
their tendency detrimental<lb/>
by probabilizing the retention<lb/>
of the dominion.</p>


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1820 Sept. 2

§ Domination impossible
Creolia the rightful principal
Deputation impossible

86 – 11 or 1
In continuance of the
union, difficulty real. Preparatory
operations necessary.
1. In Creolia, census must
be taken (Art. 30) For the
number of Creole Deputies
(31.) depends on do. of souls –
1 to 70,000. In Spain, the
number is determined by
the census of 1797 (30.) but,
per do., it is left uncertain
whether, in any and what
Creolia provinces, there is
one.

87 – 12 or 2
Where there is a census
any one, in whose power it
is, may, by destroying it, or
suppressing it, prevent the
sending deputies from that province.

88 – 13 or 3
[☞ To be added 2 Sept
Where there is no Census
none can be made. Sole
authority competent, the
Provincial Deputation
(335.6thly). Sole mode of
appointment for members
of Provincial Deputation
(per 328) Election by District
Electors of the Deputies
of the Cortes.]

89 – 14 or 4
In no Ultramarine province
can any census be
made till its submission
has been perfected and declared:
[any commencement
given to the process
by which the Deputation
is to be formed]

Creolia the rightful principal.

90 – 15 or 5.
2. Per Constitution, 1
numbers of the Creolia
Deputies will continually
be on the change. For so
will that of the Electors,
thence of the deputies.
In so far as the case, between
Spain and Spanish
America, is the same as
between England and English
America, (the emancipated
part) population
will increase faster than Spanish.


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§ Domination impossible
Creolia the rightful principal

91 or 16 or 6 2
3. Seat of Government where
shall it be? In Spain, say
Spaniards, In America, say
Creoles. Creoles say, Constitution
Per Art. 13. "object of
government ... welfare of
individuals of which society
is composed" i.e. of all where
all agree: of the greatest
number in case of conflict;
if, in judgement of greatest
number, it is better the seat
should be elsewhere than
in Spain.

92 or 17 or 17 3
Per all authorities in Creolia
is the greatest number. See
Population Table in the Note (a)
In what province, then,
of Creolia? In Constitution
not said: proof that the
framers either saw not, or
would not appear to see,
the possibility that, under
Constitution, the seat would
be elsewhere than in Spain
[Add Under a
deputation, by which shall
the choice be each time
made? by the whole Cortes?
or by only the Creolian part.

93 or 18 or 8 4
Creolians, to Spanish population
as two to one, will, or
ought the representatives of the
two, to consent that their convenience
should be sacrificed
to that of the one?

94 or 19 or 9 5
In lieu or aid of reason,
shall precedent be looked to?
After each Union in British
Empire the seat of Government
has been in the most populous
nation.
[Confessed honour it must
be, of this arrangement not
superiority of population, but
do. of power was the real
cause]

95 or 20 or 10 6
As to difficulty: in transforming
the seat from Europe to
America, King of Portugal
found none.


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§ Domination impossible Creolia the rightful principal

96 or 21 or 11 7
In this 2d and the first Cortes
these Gordian knots were
cut: at the next they will have
been found renewed.

97 or 22 or 12 8
Seat of Government thus
changed. Creolia will be the
principal, Spain the dependent
country: the tables will
be turned: to Creolia relief
will be sought out at the expence
of Spain.

98 or 23 or 13 9
With this prospect, what will
Cortes do?
1. Let the prosperity of Creolia
go on unimpeded? It
then obtains the superiority.
2. Endeavour to impede it?
to keep Creolians, weak, poor,
and blind? sad, were they
willing: scarcely would they
be able. As above, without
blinding Creolia, they could
not blind Spain.

99 or 24 or 14
Beneficial as to present peace,
the reported submissions in
Spanish America are in
their tendency detrimental
by probabilizing the retention
of the dominion.



Identifier: | JB/008/029/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 8.

Date_1

1820-09-02

Marginal Summary Numbering

86 or 11 or 1 - 89 or 14 or 4, 1-9

Box

008

Main Headings

emancipation spanish

Folio number

029

Info in main headings field

emancipation spanish

Image

001

Titles

creolia the rightful principal

Category

marginal summary sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

e3

Penner

john flowerdew colls

Watermarks

Marginals

Paper Producer

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

ID Number

3133

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