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<p>M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> <hi rend="underline">Warren</hi> contended, that whatever ulterior measures<lb/>
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might be found necessary, whatever other or more preferable<lb/>
 
measures it ight be practicable in time to adopt, if this<lb/>
 
bill remedied at once a pressing and growing evil it should be<lb/>
 
passed.  On this ground he supported it.  As the division of<lb/>
the bar which it would create, it seldom happened that there<lb/>
was any one Counsel of such overbearing talent, of such<lb/>
acuteness and display that all the Attorneys in the Kingdom<lb/>
would run after it.  He alluded to the Bill, which passed seven<lb/>
years ago, to establish the Vice Chancellor's Court.  Great inconveniences<lb/>
were then apprehended from it, but it had worked<lb/>
itself into facility in practice.  Whatever inconvenience there<lb/>
might be, the House had to decide between that and the evil<lb/>
of <add>the</add> arrears.</p>
<p>M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> <hi rend="underline">Lockhart</hi> denied, that because the Bill would remove<lb/>
the evil, the House should pass the Bill.  All <sic>inconveniencies</sic><lb/>
had some good.  The difficulties which attended legal proceedings,<lb/>
and the extraordinary accumulation of stamps in<lb/>
them <hi rend="underline">often extended to a denial of justice.  He objected to the<lb/>
palliative now proposed which might cause there to lose sight<lb/>
of the ulterior object which the present inconvenience pressed<lb/>
on them</hi>.  He thought improper also to occupy the time of the<lb/>
Judges of the Court of King's Bench so much that they could not<lb/>
keep their minds cool for decision on the political questions<lb/>
which would come before them.</p>
<p>M<hi rend="superscript">r.</hi> <hi rend="underline">Chetwynd</hi> said, he objected to this Bill, first because<lb/>
it was defective in its provisions to produce the end proposed;<lb/>
and second, because it would throw an additional labour on the<lb/>
Puisne Judges without compensation.  <hi rend="underline">No public officers were<lb/>
even now so inadequately paid as those learned persons, and<lb/>
though he should object to the grant of a shilling unnecessarily,<lb/>
he should be happy to see a proposition for increasing<lb/>
their salaries submitted to the House</hi>.  An effectual way of relieving<lb/>
the King's Bench from a great part of its business,<lb/>
and at the same time effecting a beneficial change in the<lb/>
criminal jurisdiction of the country would be to pass sentence<lb/>
at the Assizes in certain cases, on persons who were prosecuted<lb/>
for offence against the Revenue Laws.  The House was aware<lb/>
that in the cases of breaches of the Revenue Laws, the<lb/>
parties were prosecuted by informations <hi rend="underline">ex-officio</hi> and not by<lb/>
indictment.  In consequence of this form of proceeding the defendants<lb/>
were brought up to receive judgement, though<lb/>
<add>when</add></p>
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Mr Warren contended, that whatever ulterior measures
might be found necessary, whatever other or more preferable
measures it ight be practicable in time to adopt, if this
bill remedied at once a pressing and growing evil it should be
passed. On this ground he supported it. As the division of
the bar which it would create, it seldom happened that there
was any one Counsel of such overbearing talent, of such
acuteness and display that all the Attorneys in the Kingdom
would run after it. He alluded to the Bill, which passed seven
years ago, to establish the Vice Chancellor's Court. Great inconveniences
were then apprehended from it, but it had worked
itself into facility in practice. Whatever inconvenience there
might be, the House had to decide between that and the evil
of the arrears.

Mr Lockhart denied, that because the Bill would remove
the evil, the House should pass the Bill. All inconveniencies
had some good. The difficulties which attended legal proceedings,
and the extraordinary accumulation of stamps in
them often extended to a denial of justice. He objected to the
palliative now proposed which might cause there to lose sight
of the ulterior object which the present inconvenience pressed
on them
. He thought improper also to occupy the time of the
Judges of the Court of King's Bench so much that they could not
keep their minds cool for decision on the political questions
which would come before them.

Mr. Chetwynd said, he objected to this Bill, first because
it was defective in its provisions to produce the end proposed;
and second, because it would throw an additional labour on the
Puisne Judges without compensation. No public officers were
even now so inadequately paid as those learned persons, and
though he should object to the grant of a shilling unnecessarily,
he should be happy to see a proposition for increasing
their salaries submitted to the House
. An effectual way of relieving
the King's Bench from a great part of its business,
and at the same time effecting a beneficial change in the
criminal jurisdiction of the country would be to pass sentence
at the Assizes in certain cases, on persons who were prosecuted
for offence against the Revenue Laws. The House was aware
that in the cases of breaches of the Revenue Laws, the
parties were prosecuted by informations ex-officio and not by
indictment. In consequence of this form of proceeding the defendants
were brought up to receive judgement, though
when


Identifier: | JB/109/159/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 109.

Date_1

Marginal Summary Numbering

Box

109

Main Headings

Parliamentary Reform

Folio number

159

Info in main headings field

Image

001

Titles

Category

Collectanea

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

G3

Penner

Watermarks

C WILMOTT 1819

Marginals

Paper Producer

Andreas Louriottis

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

1819

Notes public

ID Number

35814

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