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N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> <del><unclear>9</unclear></del> 1, P. 41. "Few places of confinement can be under worse regulation<lb/>
<head>24 Nov 1802</head>
<head>Letter 3<hi rend="superscript">d</hi></head>
 
<p>N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> <del>9</del>1, P. 41. "Few places of confinement can be under worse regulation<lb/>
"than the <hi rend='underline'>New-Prison</hi>, . . . . The arrangement of the<lb/>
"than the <hi rend='underline'>New-Prison</hi>, . . . . The arrangement of the<lb/>
"prison itself is such, as renders it impossible to prevent its being<lb/>
"prison itself is such, as renders it impossible to prevent its being<lb/>
"one of the most dreadful seminaries of vice and profligacy<lb/>
"one of the most dreadful seminaries of vice and profligacy<lb/>
"that can be imagined," <add>[In this respect, <del>I <gap/> <unclear>support</unclear> <gap/></del> <add>as</add><lb/><!-- come back to addition later -->
"that can be imagined," <hi rend="superscript">(a)</hi> [In this respect, <del>I should suppose <gap/></del> <add>as <gap/> would not be bad as</add>
N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> <del>10</del> 2 Pp. 42,43. "Four years ago . . . . plan and estimate . . . . laid<lb/>
<lb/>
"before the Court; the business, was postponed <hi rend='underline'>sine die</hi>, under the<lb/>
<del>worse nor better than</del> the hulks: nor yet a great deal worse than <add>the</add> Cold Bath Fields</add></del><lb/>
"idea, that  the County rate, already <unclear>burdened</unclear> in a great variety<lb/>
<note><add><gap/></add> <del><gap/> <gap/> and the last are together at some times, though not at all <gap/>] if it be <gap/> time, as I suspect, without being able to affirm at to a <gap/>, that the worst and the best are together at some times, though not at all times
</del>
</note>
 
<p>N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> <del>10</del> 2 Pp. 42,43. "Four years ago . . . . plan and estimate . . . . laid<lb/>
"before the Court; the business, was postponed <hi rend='underline'><foreign>sine die</foreign></hi>, under the<lb/>
"idea, that  the County rate, already <sic>burthened</sic> in a great variety<lb/>
"of ways, would be found inadequate without great inconvenience,<lb/>
"of ways, would be found inadequate without great inconvenience,<lb/>
"to the additional expenditure of £4000. But may we not hope,<lb/>
"to the additional expenditure of £4000. But may we not hope,<lb/>
"if application were made, <hi rend='underline'>where applications well founded will<lb/>"never fail of due attention, that such <hi rend='underline'>relief would be obtained,<lb/></hi> "as, <hi rend='underline'>without adding to the burden of the county-rate,</hi> would<lb/>
"if application were made, <hi rend='underline'>where applications well founded will<lb/>
"enable the magistrates to carry the plan into effect?<lb/>
"never fail of due attention, that such <hi rend='underline'>relief would be obtained,</hi><lb/>  
N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> <del>11</del> 3. P. 44. "What then may not reasonably be expected from <hi rend='underline'>one,<lb/>"who</hi> certainly <hi rend='underline'>feels,</hi> as much as any man, <hi rend='underline'>the importance of<lb/>"restraining vice, and of improving morals,</hi> to the welfare of society.<del><hi rend='superscript'>c</hi></del><hi rend='superscript'>a*</hi><lb/>
"as, <hi rend='underline'>without adding to the burden of the county-rate,</hi> would<lb/>
"enable the magistrates to carry the plan into effect?<hi rend="superscript"><del><b)</del></hi> <hi rend="superscript"><del>(c)</del></hi></p>
 
<p>N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> <del>11</del> 3. P. 44. "What then may not reasonably be expected from <hi rend='underline'>one,<lb/>
"who</hi> certainly <hi rend='underline'>feels,</hi> as much as any man, <hi rend='underline'>the importance of<lb/>
"restraining vice, and of improving morals,</hi> to the welfare of society.<del><hi rend='superscript'>c</hi></del><hi rend='superscript'>a*</hi><lb/>
"It would be impossible, I verily believe, to expend from the<lb/>
"It would be impossible, I verily believe, to expend from the<lb/>
"public purse four thousand pounds in any way more beneficial<lb/>
"public purse four thousand pounds in any way more beneficial<lb/>
"to the community than that which is here pointed out.<lb/>
"to the community than that which is here pointed out. <hi rend="superscript">(c)</hi>
"* This testimony, it is <hi rend='underline'>humbly hoped,</hi> will not be consider'd<lb/>
 
 
<p>"* This testimony, it is <hi rend='underline'>humbly hoped,</hi> will not be <sic>consider'd</sic><lb/>
"as an instance of <hi rend='underline'>flattery</hi> to the <hi rend='underline'>great person</hi> here alluded to,<lb/>
"as an instance of <hi rend='underline'>flattery</hi> to the <hi rend='underline'>great person</hi> here alluded to,<lb/>
"but as a declaration, the truth of which, all to whom his<lb/>
"but as a declaration, the truth of which, all to whom his<lb/>
"character is known will readily confirm."
"character is known will readily confirm." <hi rend="superscript">(c)</hi> <add>From one</add> Any information to <lb/>
this effect would at least be <gap/></p>
 
<p><del>On this occasion I must beg leave to put in a word<lb/>
trouble your Lordship with a word in favour of this worthy<lb/>
<add>Gentleman</add> Magistrate that I may not leave to accuse myself of having <add>doing him</add></hi><lb/>
<add><del><gap/> <gap/> <gap/></del></add> <del> <gap/> him into a <gap/>. Considering what your Lordship<lb/>
and I know about <add>all that</add> <gap/> your Lordship <gap/> the <gap/><lb/>
might be <gap/> sold <gap/> I <add>but I must</add> <gap/> for<lb/>
intreat beg of your Lordship's candour to remember that he<lb/>
was at <gap/> the <gap/> I protest to your Lordship most solemnly<lb/>
the <gap/> <gap/> <gap/> <gap/> sort of <gap/> concert or <gap/><lb/>
better <gap/> the gentlemen <gap/> and me</p>
 
<p><del> I come new my Lord to the second part of my text: viz <add>that <gap/> <add>according to <gap/> <gap/> of the <gap/> <gap/></add> that the <gap/> of the <gap/> the Holy Ghost <add><gap/> <gap/> <gap/></add> that whatever<lb/>
that as to <gap/> <add>be the <gap/> a <gap/> the offence the <gap/> of the <gap/> of <gap/> is <gap/> <gap/><lb/>
Lordship <gap/> <gap/> <gap/> <gap/> <add><gap/> of the worthy man; that</add> <gap/> <gap/> be <gap/><lb/>
that <gap/> <gap/> <gap/> <gap/></del></p>
 
 
 


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24 Nov 1802 Letter 3d

No 91, P. 41. "Few places of confinement can be under worse regulation
"than the New-Prison, . . . . The arrangement of the
"prison itself is such, as renders it impossible to prevent its being
"one of the most dreadful seminaries of vice and profligacy
"that can be imagined," (a) [In this respect, I should suppose as would not be bad as
worse nor better than the hulks: nor yet a great deal worse than the Cold Bath Fields</add>
and the last are together at some times, though not at all ] if it be time, as I suspect, without being able to affirm at to a , that the worst and the best are together at some times, though not at all times

No 10 2 Pp. 42,43. "Four years ago . . . . plan and estimate . . . . laid
"before the Court; the business, was postponed sine die, under the
"idea, that the County rate, already burthened in a great variety
"of ways, would be found inadequate without great inconvenience,
"to the additional expenditure of £4000. But may we not hope,
"if application were made, where applications well founded will
"never fail of due attention, that such <hi rend='underline'>relief would be obtained,

"as, without adding to the burden of the county-rate, would
"enable the magistrates to carry the plan into effect?<b) (c)

No 11 3. P. 44. "What then may not reasonably be expected from one,
"who
certainly feels, as much as any man, the importance of
"restraining vice, and of improving morals,
to the welfare of society.ca*
"It would be impossible, I verily believe, to expend from the
"public purse four thousand pounds in any way more beneficial
"to the community than that which is here pointed out. (c)

"* This testimony, it is humbly hoped, will not be consider'd
"as an instance of flattery to the great person here alluded to,
"but as a declaration, the truth of which, all to whom his
"character is known will readily confirm." (c) From one Any information to
this effect would at least be

On this occasion I must beg leave to put in a word
trouble your Lordship with a word in favour of this worthy
Gentleman Magistrate that I may not leave to accuse myself of having doing him</hi>
<add>
</add> him into a . Considering what your Lordship
and I know about all that your Lordship the
might be sold I but I must for
intreat beg of your Lordship's candour to remember that he
was at the I protest to your Lordship most solemnly
the sort of concert or
better the gentlemen and me

I come new my Lord to the second part of my text: viz that <add>according to of the that the of the the Holy Ghost that whatever
that as to be the a the offence the of the of is
Lordship <add> of the worthy man; that
be
that




Identifier: | JB/116/573/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.

Date_1

1802-11-24

Marginal Summary Numbering

not numbered

Box

116

Main Headings

panopticon versus new south wales

Folio number

573

Info in main headings field

letter 3d

Image

001

Titles

note (a)

Category

correspondence

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

f33

Penner

john herbert koe

Watermarks

Marginals

jeremy bentham

Paper Producer

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

letter was never sent; see note 8 to letter 1747, vol. 7

ID Number

38106

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