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<p>The author of<lb/> | |||
the within named<lb/> | |||
<add>unpublished</add> work reflecting<lb/> | |||
with a concern<lb/> | |||
not inferior to the<lb/> | |||
Dr of lies in<lb/> | |||
the tyranny exercised<lb/> | |||
by the<lb/> | |||
church over the<lb/> | |||
consciences of<lb/> | |||
men, and on<lb/> | |||
its pernicious<lb/> | |||
influence on<lb/> | |||
the public morals<lb/> | |||
takes the liberty<lb/> | |||
of sending <gap/><lb/> | |||
<unclear>G</unclear>. one of the <del>parts</del> <lb/> | |||
<add>Chapters</add> for the sake of<lb/> | |||
the last section<lb/> | |||
which he thinks<lb/> | |||
will be found to<lb/> | |||
point out the<lb/> | |||
most <sic>valuerable</sic><lb/> | |||
part of the system<lb/> | |||
<gap/> that<lb/> | |||
which may be<lb/> | |||
attacked, if ever<lb/> | |||
any such attack<lb/> | |||
should be thought<lb/> | |||
fit to be made<lb/> | |||
in the proper place<lb/> | |||
with <add>to</add> the <del>greatest</del> <add>fairest</add><lb/> | |||
prospect of advantage.</p> | |||
<p>The <unclear>R.'</unclear> Rev.<lb/> | |||
supposition of<lb/> | |||
this profligate<lb/> | |||
system <unclear>find</unclear> no<lb/> | |||
difficulty in<lb/> | |||
disclaiming</p> | |||
<pb/> | |||
<p>disclaiming all<lb/> | |||
regard to liberty<lb/> | |||
of conscience: but<lb/> | |||
they will hardly<lb/> | |||
deem it prudent<lb/> | |||
openly to disclaim <add>profess</add> <lb/> | |||
all regard <add>an equal disregard</add> to<lb/> | |||
truth. <add>veracity.</add> which they<lb/> | |||
must do <del>in order</del><lb/> | |||
<del>to</del> ere they can<lb/> | |||
say a syllable<lb/> | |||
in favour of the<lb/> | |||
<del>practice have</del> <add>habitual perjury here</add> <lb/> | |||
<del><gap/> to</del><lb/> | |||
<del>protested against</del><lb/> | |||
<del>pointed out for</del> <add><del>exposed to</del></add><lb/> | |||
<del><gap/> <gap/></del> <add>held up to</add><lb/> | |||
<del><gap/> <gap/> in</del> <add>observation.</add></p> | |||
<p>He regards with<lb/> | |||
sympathetic affection<lb/> | |||
and respect his<lb/> | |||
G's <del>finest</del> <add><del>honest</del> <add>generous</add></add> zeal,<lb/> | |||
and <hi rend="underline">wishes</hi> (he<lb/> | |||
scarce dares say<lb/> | |||
<hi rend="underline">hopes</hi>) to see it<lb/> | |||
become contagious,<lb/> | |||
in the only place<lb/> | |||
where it can<lb/> | |||
be <del>attended with</del> <add>crowned with</add><lb/> | |||
<del>effective be productive</del> <add><del><gap/></del></add><lb/> | |||
<del><gap/> of</del> the<lb/> | |||
fruits it <del>looks</del> for<lb/> | |||
so well deserves.</p> | |||
<pb/> | |||
<p>The author<lb/> | |||
of the enclosed<lb/> | |||
unpublished<lb/> | |||
work, takes<lb/> | |||
the liberty of<lb/> | |||
begging L<hi rend="superscript">d</hi><lb/> | |||
Stanhope's acceptance<lb/> | |||
of<lb/> | |||
such parts as<lb/> | |||
have been printed<lb/> | |||
principally for<lb/> | |||
the sake of<lb/> | |||
the last section<lb/> | |||
in Ch. 5, which<lb/> | |||
he imagines<lb/> | |||
will be found<lb/> | |||
to point out<lb/> | |||
the most vulnerable<lb/> | |||
part<lb/> | |||
in the system<lb/> | |||
of Ecclesiastical<lb/> | |||
tyranny, and<lb/> | |||
that which<lb/> | |||
may be attacked, <del>whenever</del><lb/> | |||
<del>any such</del><lb/> | |||
<del>att</del> upon any<lb/> | |||
future occasion<lb/> | |||
with the<lb/> | |||
fairest prospect<lb/> | |||
of advantage<lb/></p> | |||
<p><del>He</del> hopes that <add>He takes the liberty<lb/> | |||
of adding his</add><lb/> | |||
<add>his</add> Lordship's generous<lb/> | |||
efforts on<lb/> | |||
behalf of religious<lb/> | |||
liberty <add>reason</add> &<lb/> | |||
good morals will<lb/> | |||
not be relaxed<lb/> | |||
by any <del>recollection</del> <add><del>reflection</del></add><lb/> | |||
<add>considerations</add> of past<lb/> | |||
miscarriage.</p> | |||
<p>The most stubborn<lb/> | |||
prejudices<lb/> | |||
may yield as<lb/> | |||
<add>in most instances</add> they have yielded<lb/> | |||
<note>to honest zeal,<lb/> | |||
<add>when succeeded by ability</add> & perseverance.</note></p> | |||
<pb/> | |||
<p>But wherever it<lb/> | |||
is printed, if that<lb/> | |||
<del>is to be printed</del> <add>be its destination</add>,<lb/> | |||
I should wish<lb/> | |||
<del>before</del> first to<lb/> | |||
cast an eye over<lb/> | |||
it, not having<lb/> | |||
done so since<lb/> | |||
the year 1787<lb/> | |||
when it was<lb/> | |||
written: <del>for as</del><lb/> | |||
<del>I had then</del><lb/> | |||
<unclear>not</unclear> <gap/> the<lb/> | |||
erasures which<lb/> | |||
L<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> L. to whom<lb/> | |||
I had given<lb/> | |||
carte blanche -<lb/> | |||
had the goodness<lb/> | |||
to make<lb/> | |||
at my request<lb/> | |||
the rather as there<lb/> | |||
is a danger of its<lb/> | |||
being <gap/> with<lb/> | |||
<!-- the following lines scored through with a vertical line -->observations by <gap/><lb/> | |||
Having mentioned<lb/> | |||
- <unclear>them</unclear> <gap/>, (which<lb/> | |||
these particulars<lb/> | |||
I have never read)<lb/> | |||
<unclear>before</unclear> the whole<lb/> | |||
therefore you <add>if his Lordship</add><lb/> | |||
will either keep <add>did not <unclear>clear</unclear> it</add><lb/> | |||
it till you are <add>of them</add><lb/> | |||
got a copy taken<lb/> | |||
of it or return<lb/> | |||
it me first, just<lb/> | |||
as is most agreeable</p><!-- End of striking out --> | |||
<p><del>Having mentioned</del> | |||
<del>that much</del> <add>upon the whole</add> I<lb/> | |||
beg leave to refer<lb/> | |||
it to your own<lb/> | |||
good pleasure, Sir,<lb/> | |||
whether to return<lb/> | |||
it me now or<lb/> | |||
to keep it till<lb/> | |||
you have for the<lb/> | |||
present for the<lb/> | |||
purpose of a copy:<lb/> | |||
and should</p> | |||
<pb/> | |||
<p>Sir<lb/> | |||
I have just<lb/> | |||
<add>recd</add> from L<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> L. your<lb/> | |||
letter to him. relative<lb/> | |||
to my paper on<lb/> | |||
Penitentiary-Houses<lb/> | |||
&c and am much<lb/> | |||
flattered by the<lb/> | |||
approbation you<lb/> | |||
have the goodness to<lb/> | |||
express: With regard<lb/> | |||
to the having<lb/> | |||
a copy of it taken,<lb/> | |||
I will beg leave<lb/> | |||
to mention to you<lb/> | |||
how I am circumstanced.<lb/> | |||
<note>I considered it from<lb/> | |||
the first as absolutely <add>altogether</add><lb/> | |||
at your disposal,<lb/> | |||
but for the instant</note><lb/> | |||
I had<lb/> | |||
been wishing for<lb/> | |||
some to have one<lb/> | |||
taken myself to<lb/> | |||
send to the D. de<lb/> | |||
Liancourt who is<lb/> | |||
at the head of the<lb/> | |||
<foreign>Committé de Mendacité</foreign>,<lb/> | |||
and at<lb/> | |||
whose desire the<lb/> | |||
Marquis de Cazaux<lb/> | |||
was over in London<lb/> | |||
not long ago collecting<lb/> | |||
<del>hint</del> <add>information</add> relative to<lb/> | |||
the subject of<lb/> | |||
Houses of labour<lb/> | |||
& enforcement.</p> | |||
<p>I am the more desirous<lb/> | |||
<del>it</del> <add>the whole plan</add> should<lb/> | |||
go <unclear>before</unclear> the Committee in <gap/><lb/> | |||
<gap/> <gap/> <del>it had</del> <add><del>been</del></add></p> | |||
<pb/> | |||
<p><del>been already</del> intimation<lb/> | |||
of it had<lb/> | |||
been already given<lb/> | |||
to them by a friend<lb/> | |||
of <del>mine & the</del> M.<lb/> | |||
de Casaux's and<lb/> | |||
mine who though<lb/> | |||
much <add>struck</add> with it<lb/> | |||
thought it sufficient<lb/> | |||
to mention<lb/> | |||
it in so loose <add>& general</add> a<lb/> | |||
manner as I <lb/> | |||
<unclear>fear</unclear> will convey.<lb/> | |||
but a very inadequate<lb/> | |||
idea either<lb/> | |||
of the thing or of<lb/> | |||
its advantages</p><!-- Line across the column --> | |||
<p>It is <add>equally</add> so for the<lb/> | |||
purpose of printing<lb/> | |||
in Ireland, if you<lb/> | |||
<del>will do me the<lb/> | |||
honour to <unclear>accept</unclear><lb/> | |||
of it</del>, and think<lb/> | |||
the previous publication<lb/> | |||
of the Essay<lb/> | |||
will promote <add>be of use</add> the<lb/> | |||
adoption of the<lb/> | |||
plan <add>it recommends</add>. I Should<lb/> | |||
any doubts <add>objections</add> or difficulties<lb/> | |||
suggest<lb/> | |||
themselves I should<lb/> | |||
be glad of an<lb/> | |||
opportunity <del>to</del> of<lb/> | |||
endeavouring to obviate<lb/> | |||
them, and <add>should</add></p> | |||
<pb/> | |||
<p>should be very<lb/> | |||
proud to lend<lb/> | |||
any assistance<lb/> | |||
in my power<lb/> | |||
I may be thought<lb/> | |||
capable of affording<lb/> | |||
towards the<lb/> | |||
accomplishment<lb/> | |||
of a system <add>of police</add> which<lb/> | |||
it gives me no<lb/> | |||
small satisfaction<lb/> | |||
to see received in<lb/> | |||
Ireland and in<lb/> | |||
such good hands</p> | |||
<p>I take this opportunity<lb/> | |||
<add><del>If <unclear>any then</unclear></del></add> of <del>begging<lb/> | |||
the honour<lb/> | |||
of your acceptance<lb/> | |||
for</del> <add>enclosing</add> a copy of a<lb/> | |||
pamphlet I published<lb/> | |||
on the general<lb/> | |||
subject of Penitentiary<lb/> | |||
Houses<lb/> | |||
when it was<lb/> | |||
on the carpet here<lb/> | |||
in England. I<lb/> | |||
think about half<lb/> | |||
of the ideas <del><gap/></del><lb/> | |||
suggested in it were<lb/> | |||
adopted in the<lb/> | |||
Bill which afterwards<lb/> | |||
passed into<lb/> | |||
an Act.</p> | |||
<p>As to the bringing<lb/> | |||
in the Bill<lb/> | |||
in Ireland, if<lb/> | |||
my resolution<lb/> | |||
<del><unclear>as</unclear></del> come to <del>with</del> <add>and</add><lb/> | |||
<add><sic>publickly</sic> mentioned with</add> regard to the time<lb/> | |||
I should be glad<lb/> | |||
to be informed of <add>it</add></p> | |||
<pb/> | |||
<p>it and for this reason <hi rend="superscript">[+]</hi></p><!-- Line across the column --> | |||
<p>Thinking it hardly<lb/> | |||
probable that<lb/> | |||
the French Committee<lb/> | |||
should<lb/> | |||
<add>very speedily</add> be so far advanced<lb/> | |||
<add>have got to such a degree of detail</add> in their plans <add><gap/></add><lb/><lb/> | |||
relative to that<lb/> | |||
difficult subject<lb/> | |||
as to preclude <add>have adopted</add> the<lb/> | |||
<del>consideration</del> taking<lb/> | |||
such a matter of<lb/> | |||
detail into their<lb/> | |||
consideration</p> | |||
<p>If the consideration <add><gap/></add><lb/> | |||
time should permit,<lb/> | |||
I should<lb/> | |||
be glad to take <add>it should <unclear>part</unclear> in</add><lb/> | |||
the chance for its<lb/> | |||
adoption by <add>with</add> the<lb/> | |||
Irish Parliament<lb/> | |||
in oder that in<lb/> | |||
the want of its<lb/> | |||
adoption there<lb/> | |||
it might go to<lb/> | |||
France with<lb/> | |||
the weight of such<lb/> | |||
high authority in<lb/> | |||
its favour</p> | |||
<p>On the other<lb/> | |||
hand should the<lb/> | |||
time of <del>bringing</del><lb/> | |||
proposing the measure<lb/> | |||
in Ireland be <add>uncertain</add></p> | |||
<pb/> | |||
<p>uncertain or very<lb/> | |||
remote, the sooner<lb/> | |||
it were in France<lb/> | |||
the better -. and<lb/> | |||
for that purpose<lb/> | |||
I should either<lb/> | |||
take <add>have</add> a manuscript<lb/> | |||
copy <add>taken</add> and sent<lb/> | |||
thither, or perhaps<lb/> | |||
print it here<lb/> | |||
and send over<lb/> | |||
a part of the impression.<lb/> | |||
<add>Upon the whole</add> I should<lb/> | |||
hold myself <del>much</del><lb/> | |||
much honoured<lb/> | |||
and obliged by<lb/> | |||
any information <lb/> | |||
or advice you<lb/> | |||
could favour me<lb/> | |||
with on the subject <lb/> | |||
and can with all<lb/> | |||
respect</p> | |||
<!-- This paragraph ruled off and scored through with a vertical line --><p><del>If</del> for any <gap/><lb/> | |||
With regard to<lb/> | |||
the copying it<lb/> | |||
is altogether at your<lb/> | |||
disposal not <unclear>only</unclear><lb/> | |||
for that purpose<lb/> | |||
but</p> | |||
<p>A short time ago<lb/> | |||
the Marquis de Cazaux<lb/> | |||
being over here at the<lb/> | |||
desire of the D. de L.<lb/> | |||
who <unclear>he</unclear><lb/> | |||
this idea of mine<lb/> | |||
was <gap/> to him<lb/> | |||
by a friend of mine<lb/> | |||
to whom I communicated,<lb/> | |||
is for that purpose<lb/> | |||
<unclear>&</unclear> <add>but</add> who was <add><unclear>through</unclear></add> <gap/> struck<lb/> | |||
with <hi rend="underline">it thought it.</hi><lb/> | |||
as yet I could <unclear>transfer</unclear>.<lb/> | |||
the whole Essay or a<lb/> | |||
considerable <gap/> from<lb/> | |||
it should go over</p> | |||
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The author of
the within named
unpublished work reflecting
with a concern
not inferior to the
Dr of lies in
the tyranny exercised
by the
church over the
consciences of
men, and on
its pernicious
influence on
the public morals
takes the liberty
of sending
G. one of the parts
Chapters for the sake of
the last section
which he thinks
will be found to
point out the
most valuerable
part of the system
that
which may be
attacked, if ever
any such attack
should be thought
fit to be made
in the proper place
with to the greatest fairest
prospect of advantage.
The R.' Rev.
supposition of
this profligate
system find no
difficulty in
disclaiming
---page break---
disclaiming all
regard to liberty
of conscience: but
they will hardly
deem it prudent
openly to disclaim profess
all regard an equal disregard to
truth. veracity. which they
must do in order
to ere they can
say a syllable
in favour of the
practice have habitual perjury here
to
protested against
pointed out for exposed to
held up to
in observation.
He regards with
sympathetic affection
and respect his
G's finest honest <add>generous</add> zeal,
and wishes (he
scarce dares say
hopes) to see it
become contagious,
in the only place
where it can
be attended with crowned with
effective be productive
of the
fruits it looks for
so well deserves.
---page break---
The author
of the enclosed
unpublished
work, takes
the liberty of
begging Ld
Stanhope's acceptance
of
such parts as
have been printed
principally for
the sake of
the last section
in Ch. 5, which
he imagines
will be found
to point out
the most vulnerable
part
in the system
of Ecclesiastical
tyranny, and
that which
may be attacked, whenever
any such
att upon any
future occasion
with the
fairest prospect
of advantage
He hopes that He takes the liberty
of adding his
his Lordship's generous
efforts on
behalf of religious
liberty reason &
good morals will
not be relaxed
by any recollection reflection
considerations of past
miscarriage.
The most stubborn
prejudices
may yield as
in most instances they have yielded
to honest zeal,
when succeeded by ability & perseverance.
---page break---
But wherever it
is printed, if that
is to be printed be its destination,
I should wish
before first to
cast an eye over
it, not having
done so since
the year 1787
when it was
written: for as
I had then
not the
erasures which
Ld L. to whom
I had given
carte blanche -
had the goodness
to make
at my request
the rather as there
is a danger of its
being with
observations by
Having mentioned
- them , (which
these particulars
I have never read)
before the whole
therefore you if his Lordship
will either keep did not clear it
it till you are of them
got a copy taken
of it or return
it me first, just
as is most agreeable
Having mentioned
that much upon the whole I
beg leave to refer
it to your own
good pleasure, Sir,
whether to return
it me now or
to keep it till
you have for the
present for the
purpose of a copy:
and should
---page break---
Sir
I have just
recd from Ld L. your
letter to him. relative
to my paper on
Penitentiary-Houses
&c and am much
flattered by the
approbation you
have the goodness to
express: With regard
to the having
a copy of it taken,
I will beg leave
to mention to you
how I am circumstanced.
I considered it from
the first as absolutely altogether
at your disposal,
but for the instant
I had
been wishing for
some to have one
taken myself to
send to the D. de
Liancourt who is
at the head of the
Committé de Mendacité,
and at
whose desire the
Marquis de Cazaux
was over in London
not long ago collecting
hint information relative to
the subject of
Houses of labour
& enforcement.
I am the more desirous
it the whole plan should
go before the Committee in
it had been
---page break---
been already intimation
of it had
been already given
to them by a friend
of mine & the M.
de Casaux's and
mine who though
much struck with it
thought it sufficient
to mention
it in so loose & general a
manner as I
fear will convey.
but a very inadequate
idea either
of the thing or of
its advantages
It is equally so for the
purpose of printing
in Ireland, if you
will do me the
honour to accept
of it, and think
the previous publication
of the Essay
will promote be of use the
adoption of the
plan it recommends. I Should
any doubts objections or difficulties
suggest
themselves I should
be glad of an
opportunity to of
endeavouring to obviate
them, and should
---page break---
should be very
proud to lend
any assistance
in my power
I may be thought
capable of affording
towards the
accomplishment
of a system of police which
it gives me no
small satisfaction
to see received in
Ireland and in
such good hands
I take this opportunity
If any then of begging
the honour
of your acceptance
for enclosing a copy of a
pamphlet I published
on the general
subject of Penitentiary
Houses
when it was
on the carpet here
in England. I
think about half
of the ideas
suggested in it were
adopted in the
Bill which afterwards
passed into
an Act.
As to the bringing
in the Bill
in Ireland, if
my resolution
as come to with and
publickly mentioned with regard to the time
I should be glad
to be informed of it
---page break---
it and for this reason [+]
Thinking it hardly
probable that
the French Committee
should
very speedily be so far advanced
have got to such a degree of detail in their plans
relative to that
difficult subject
as to preclude have adopted the
consideration taking
such a matter of
detail into their
consideration
If the consideration
time should permit,
I should
be glad to take it should part in
the chance for its
adoption by with the
Irish Parliament
in oder that in
the want of its
adoption there
it might go to
France with
the weight of such
high authority in
its favour
On the other
hand should the
time of bringing
proposing the measure
in Ireland be uncertain
---page break---
uncertain or very
remote, the sooner
it were in France
the better -. and
for that purpose
I should either
take have a manuscript
copy taken and sent
thither, or perhaps
print it here
and send over
a part of the impression.
Upon the whole I should
hold myself much
much honoured
and obliged by
any information
or advice you
could favour me
with on the subject
and can with all
respect
If for any
With regard to
the copying it
is altogether at your
disposal not only
for that purpose
but
A short time ago
the Marquis de Cazaux
being over here at the
desire of the D. de L.
who he
this idea of mine
was to him
by a friend of mine
to whom I communicated,
is for that purpose
& but who was through struck
with it thought it.
as yet I could transfer.
the whole Essay or a
considerable from
it should go over
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