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29 June 1811 1811 June 29 9
<head>29 June 1811 1811 June 29 9<lb/>
Fallacies
Fallacies</head>


V. ad superstitionem
<note>V. ad superstitionem<lb/>
Ch. 1. Generalia
Ch. 1. Generalia<lb/>
§. Exposition or Exposure
§. Exposition or Exposure<lb/>
§.1. I. Parties
§.1. I. Parties</note>


1 1
<p>1 1</p>


9 or 1
<p>9 or 1<lb/>
Parties capable of
Parties capable of<lb/>
being concerned in an
being concerned in an<lb/>
engagement of the
engagement of the<lb/>
kind in question &#x2014;
kind in question &#x2014;<lb/>
the Sovereign of a state
the Sovereign of a state<lb/>
being in all cases one.
being in all cases one.<lb/>
The other
The other</p>


In the case here in question <gap/> a species of contract <gap/> an
<p>In the case here in question <gap/> a species of contract <gap/> an<lb/>
engagement is by the supposition considered as having place,
engagement is by the supposition considered as having place,<lb/>
and an engagement supposes has parties more parties viz. more than one; and in the case
and an engagement supposes has parties more parties viz. more than one; and in the case<lb/>
here in question, of the two parties the sovereign of the state in question is
here in question, of the two parties the sovereign of the state in question is
one.
one.</p>


10 or 2
<note>10 or 2<lb/>
The other may be
The other may be<lb/>
a party without the
a party without the<lb/>
state, or do within
state, or do within<lb/>
the state.
the state.</note>


As to the party it may be either a party whose station is without
<p>As to the party it may be either a party whose station is without<lb/>
the state in question, or a party whose station is within the state.
the state in question, or a party whose station is within the state.</p>


11 or 3
<note>11 or 3<lb/>
If without the state,
If without the state,<lb/>
it must be the sovereign
it must be the sovereign<lb/>
of such <gap/>
of such <gap/><lb/>
state: viz: immediately
state: viz: immediately<lb/>
or alternately
or alternately<lb/>
since without permission
since without permission<lb/>
ex<gap/>
ex<gap/><lb/>
from his own sovereign
from his own sovereign<lb/>
the subject if any
the subject if any<lb/>
state can not contract
state can not contract<lb/>
with the sovereign of
with the sovereign of<lb/>
another.
another.</note>


If a party without the state this party is either explicitly
<p>If a party without the state this party is either explicitly<lb/>
or implicitly the sovereign of that such other state. For
or implicitly the sovereign of that such other state. For<lb/>
if a the case be such that the other party is by the terms of the contract not the sovereign but a
if a the case be such that the other party is by the terms of the contract not the sovereign but a<lb/>
subject of such foreign state, still by the nature of the
subject of such foreign state, still by the nature of the<lb/>
case, by the nature of the relation between subject sovereign and
case, by the nature of the relation between subject sovereign and<lb/>
subject in every political state, the subject of the foreign
subject in every political state, the subject of the foreign<lb/>
state can not be bound any further than the as his sovereign is
state can not be bound any further than the as his sovereign is<lb/>
bound with him. For a by whatsoever tie the subject of a
bound with him. For a by whatsoever tie the subject of a<lb/>
foreign state is capable of being bound to the sovereign of
foreign state is capable of being bound to the sovereign of<lb/>
our own state the proposed state in question, it can not ever be so strong but that
our own state the proposed state in question, it can not ever be so strong but that<lb/>
the tie by which he is bound to the subject of his own
the tie by which he is bound to the subject of his own<lb/>
state is still stronger. He therefore can not be bound to
state is still stronger. He therefore can not be bound to<lb/>
the sovereign of a state other than his own any further than
the sovereign of a state other than his own any further than<lb/>
it is in the pleasure of the sovereign of his own state to permitt
it is in the pleasure of the sovereign of his own state to permitt<lb/>
him so to bind himself, and in virtue and to the extent
him so to bind himself, and in virtue and to the extent<lb/>
of such permission to hold himself bound likewise
of such permission to hold himself bound likewise</p>


11(a) or 3(a)
<note>11(a) or 3(a)<lb/>
Difficulties <gap/><gap/>
Difficulties <gap/><gap/><lb/>
of which <gap/> <gap/> <gap/>
of which <gap/> <gap/> <gap/><lb<lb/>/>
is <gap/><gap/> General<gap/>
is <gap/><gap/> General<gap/>
answer in point of fact,
answer in point of fact,<lb/>
on each occasion <gap/>
on each occasion <gap/><lb/>
Next 3 lines of this note interlinear with marginal text extension below which however
<!-- Next 3 lines of this note interlinear with marginal text extension below --> which however<lb/>
of punishment over time
of punishment over time</note>
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Note (a)<lb/>
(a) The question under concerning who of subjection and sovereignty as between<lb/>
sovereign and sovereign, i.e. with relation to which of two sovereign<lb/>
<gap/> given individual is to be considered as subject is a question<lb/>
of great nicety and <gap/> susceptible of many modifications, and<lb/>
beset with encompassed by a proportionable number of difficulties. So far as concerns<lb/>
the<lb/>
the question matter of fact, the<lb/>
simplest and it should<lb/>
seem the truest answer<lb/>
is &#x2014; On any each given occasion occasion,<lb/>
and for any given length of time you are the subject<lb/>
of that sovereign in whose<lb/>
power it is on that occasion<lb/>
and during that length of<lb/>
time to inflict suffering on<lb/>
you to the greatest amount.<lb/>
It is in this way and to this<lb/>
purpose and extent that each<lb/>


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Note (a)
(a) The question under concerning who of subjection and sovereignty as between
sovereign and sovereign, i.e. with relation to which of two sovereign
<gap/> given individual is to be considered as subject is a question
of great nicety and <gap/> susceptible of many modifications, and
beset with encompassed by a proportionable number of difficulties. So far as concerns
the
the question matter of fact, the
simplest and it should
seem the truest answer
is &#x2014; On any each given occasion occasion,
and fir any given length of time you are the subject
of that sovereign in whose
power it is on that occasion
and during that length of
time to inflict suffering on
you to the greatest amount.
It is in this way and to this
purpose and extent that each
is then greatest.





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29 June 1811 1811 June 29 9
Fallacies

V. ad superstitionem
Ch. 1. Generalia
§. Exposition or Exposure
§.1. I. Parties

1 1

9 or 1
Parties capable of
being concerned in an
engagement of the
kind in question —
the Sovereign of a state
being in all cases one.
The other

In the case here in question a species of contract an
engagement is by the supposition considered as having place,
and an engagement supposes has parties more parties viz. more than one; and in the case
here in question, of the two parties the sovereign of the state in question is one.

10 or 2
The other may be
a party without the
state, or do within
the state.

As to the party it may be either a party whose station is without
the state in question, or a party whose station is within the state.

11 or 3
If without the state,
it must be the sovereign
of such
state: viz: immediately
or alternately
since without permission
ex
from his own sovereign
the subject if any
state can not contract
with the sovereign of
another.

If a party without the state this party is either explicitly
or implicitly the sovereign of that such other state. For
if a the case be such that the other party is by the terms of the contract not the sovereign but a
subject of such foreign state, still by the nature of the
case, by the nature of the relation between subject sovereign and
subject in every political state, the subject of the foreign
state can not be bound any further than the as his sovereign is
bound with him. For a by whatsoever tie the subject of a
foreign state is capable of being bound to the sovereign of
our own state the proposed state in question, it can not ever be so strong but that
the tie by which he is bound to the subject of his own
state is still stronger. He therefore can not be bound to
the sovereign of a state other than his own any further than
it is in the pleasure of the sovereign of his own state to permitt
him so to bind himself, and in virtue and to the extent
of such permission to hold himself bound likewise

11(a) or 3(a)
Difficulties
of which <lb
/> is General answer in point of fact,
on each occasion

which however

of punishment over time Note (a)
(a) The question under concerning who of subjection and sovereignty as between
sovereign and sovereign, i.e. with relation to which of two sovereign
given individual is to be considered as subject is a question
of great nicety and susceptible of many modifications, and
beset with encompassed by a proportionable number of difficulties. So far as concerns
the
the question matter of fact, the
simplest and it should
seem the truest answer
is — On any each given occasion occasion,
and for any given length of time you are the subject
of that sovereign in whose
power it is on that occasion
and during that length of
time to inflict suffering on
you to the greatest amount.
It is in this way and to this
purpose and extent that each




Identifier: | JB/104/238/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 104.

Date_1

1811-06-29

Marginal Summary Numbering

9 or 1 - 11 or 3, 11a or 3a

Box

104

Main Headings

fallacies

Folio number

238

Info in main headings field

fallacies

Image

001

Titles

Category

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Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

c1 / d9 / e1

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

Marginals

jeremy bentham

Paper Producer

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

ID Number

34209

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