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<p><!-- In pencil -->Radicalism not</p>
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<p>Of the 12 millions of lots, some then would be, <add>of</add> <gap/> at<lb/>
<p>Of the 12 millions of lots, some then would be, <add>of</add> which at<lb/>
present Time: <add>the same <del><gap/></del> is thus ample, unquestionably.  
present Trus: <add>the <unclear>value</unclear> <del>Of</del> is thus ample, unquestionably.  
  But on the other hand</add> there are others <del><gap/> <gap/> <gap/></del>, many of<lb/>
  But on the other hand</add> there are others <del>sent <gap/> <gap/></del>, many of<lb/>
what taken together would not compose a mass of property <del><gap/></del>ill<lb/>
which taken together would not compose a mass of property <del><gap/></del>ill<lb/>
<del>any thing a mass of property</del> sufficient for the purchase of <add>so much as</add> a single<lb/>
<del>any thing a mass of property</del> sufficient for the purchase of <add>so much as</add> a single<lb/>
meal.  And <add>of these there would</add> <del>than</del> unfortunately <add>be</add> <hi rend="underline">hundreds of</hi> <del>thousands</del> <add><hi rend="underline">thousands</hi></add>. to go no<lb/>
meal.  And <add>of these there would</add> <del>than</del> unfortunately <add>be</add> <hi rend="underline">hundreds of</hi> <del>thousands</del> <add><hi rend="underline">thousands</hi></add>. to go no<lb/>
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<note><!-- Note in pencil -->15<lb/>
<note><!-- Note in pencil -->15<lb/>
For contra: to many<lb/>
Per contra: to many<lb/>
<del><gap/></del> times the content,<lb/>
<del><gap/></del> times the content,<lb/>
it would not yield<lb/>
it would not yield<lb/>
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name &#x2014; <del>such</del> giving <add>to hundreds of thousands</add> under the name of <add>perpetually</add> competent subsistence<lb/>
name &#x2014; <del>such</del> giving <add>to hundreds of thousands</add> under the name of <add>perpetually</add> competent subsistence<lb/>
immediate <del><gap/></del> starvation and death &#x2014; to quantity we <del>are</del><lb/>
immediate <del><gap/></del> starvation and death &#x2014; to quantity we <del>are</del><lb/>
most this perforce substitute <hi rend="underline">value</hi>.</p>
most thus perforce substitute <hi rend="underline">value</hi>.</p>


<note>17<lb/>
<note>17<lb/>
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<note>18<lb/>
<note>18<lb/>
Yet on pain of death<lb/>
Yet on pain of death<lb/>
to the hundreds of those<lb/>
to the hundreds of thousands:<lb/>
sand: value of each<lb/>
value of each<lb/>
lot must have been<lb/>
lot must have been<lb/>
pronounced by <del><hi rend="underline">Valuing</hi></del><lb/>
pronounced by <del><hi rend="underline">Valuing</hi></del><lb/>
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<p>Be this as it may, since, on pain of death to hundreds <lb/>
<p>Be this as it may, since, on pain of death to hundreds <lb/>
of thousands, value <del>will</del> value of <del>every</del> <add>each</add> one of the 12 millions<lb/>
of thousands, value <del>will</del> value of <del>every</del> <add>each</add> one of - - -lions<lb/>
of shares must <add>have been pronounced</add> before the <add>giving effect</add> <del>execution</del> to this plan of <add>supposed</add> numerical<lb/>
of shares must <add>have been pronounced</add> before the <add>giving effect</add> <del>execution</del> to this plan of <add>supposed</add> numerical<lb/>
<add>benefit</add> <del><gap/></del> can so much as have been commenced, &#x2014; <lb/>
<add>benefit</add> <del>competence</del> can so much as have been commenced, &#x2014; <lb/>
to pronounce it, <add>it would be necessary to have had</add> <del>we must have had</del> a competent <gap/><lb/>
to pronounce it, <add>it would be necessary to have had</add> <del>we must have had</del> a competent <gap/><lb/>
of <del><gap/></del><add>functionaries,</add> where as will call <hi rend="underline">valuers</hi>.</p>
of <del><gap/></del><add>functionaries,</add> where as will call <hi rend="underline">valuers</hi>.</p>
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Competent in probity <lb/>
Competent in probity <lb/>
and talent? paid or<lb/>
and talent? paid or<lb/>
unpaid? if paid, where<lb/>
unpaid? if paid, who<lb/>
to pay those, and with<lb/>
to pay them, and with<lb/>
what? If imposed how<lb/>
what? If imposed how<lb/>
which working, not that<lb/>
which working, not that<lb/>
to be kept <gap/> and<lb/>
to be kept alive and<lb/>
when and what the<lb/>
when and what the<lb/>
worth of their service</note>
worth of their service</note>


But <del>the</del> in any competent number, these <add>competent</add>valuers<lb/>
But <del>the</del> in any competent number, these <add>competent</add>valuers<lb/>
where<del><gap/> <gap/> to be</del><add>would they be to  be</add> found? <del><gap/></del> <add><del>right</del><add>competent in respect</add></add> of knowledge and active <note>suffice to engage than<lb/>
where<del><gap/> <gap/> to be</del><add>would they be to  be</add> found? <del><gap/></del> <add><del>right</del><add>competent in respect</add></add> of knowledge and active<lb/>
talent how many?<add>competent</add> in point of probity, how may? <del><gap/></del><lb/>
bold points <add>taken together , </add> had <add>many</add> <del>must</del> force And <del>be</del><add>be</add> there <del><gap/></del><add>ever</add> so many of<lb/>
<add>them in</add> existence, by when are they to be <hi rend="underline">found</hi>? <del>When</del> <add>If</add> found, by whom<lb/>
are they to be <hi rend="underline">paid</hi>? paid, in such amount and manner as shall <del>be</del> <note>suffice to engage than<lb/>
voluntary and contented<lb/>
voluntary and contented<lb/>
server? or, if this can<lb/>
server? or, if this can<lb/>
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to be <hi rend="underline">forced</hi>, and by<lb/>
to be <hi rend="underline">forced</hi>, and by<lb/>
what <hi rend="underline">means</hi> are they to<lb/>
what <hi rend="underline">means</hi> are they to<lb/>
be forced! and while working under the force by what means are they to be kept alive? |</note><lb/>
be forced! and while working under the force by what means are they to be kept alive? |</note>
talent how many?<add>competent</add> in point of probity, how may? <del><gap/></del><lb/>
bold points <add>taken together , </add> had <add>many</add> <del>must</del> force And




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1819 Nov. 23

III. Immoveables
II Nature of the case
§ immoveables

Radicalism not

Of the 12 millions of lots, some then would be, of which at
present Trus: the value Of is thus ample, unquestionably. But on the other hand there are others sent , many of
which taken together would not compose a mass of property ill
any thing a mass of property sufficient for the purchase of so much as a single
meal. And of these there would than unfortunately be hundreds of thousands thousands. to go no
further: which the rich ones abovementioned would scarcely be to be reckoned
by hundreds.

15
Per contra: to many
times the content,
it would not yield
a single meal: for
hundreds thus inserted
hundreds of thousands
would be starved

16
Hence to quantity
must be substituted
value.

The sample of coming at equally division by rule and compass being
thus inapplicable — , giving equally not in effect but only in
name — such giving to hundreds of thousands under the name of perpetually competent subsistence
immediate starvation and death — to quantity we are
most thus perforce substitute value.

17
Value not so easy
for as a poment
Ask Adam Smith
and Ricardo doc.

Value — a word was easy to pronounce; not quite so easy
to find a determinate and clear idea for. Ask the best
informed else; of the — of the differently be
some Ask the book or the ghost of Adam Smith;
ask Mr Ricardo who have yet lives; and for the good of his
country bylong may he live!

18
Yet on pain of death
to the hundreds of thousands:
value of each
lot must have been
pronounced by Valuing
Valuers.

Be this as it may, since, on pain of death to hundreds
of thousands, value will value of every each one of - - -lions
of shares must have been pronounced before the giving effect execution to this plan of supposed numerical
benefit competence can so much as have been commenced, —
to pronounce it, it would be necessary to have had we must have had a competent
of functionaries, where as will call valuers.

19
Valuers thecompetent and
willing, in competent
where findable?
Competent in probity
and talent? paid or
unpaid? if paid, who
to pay them, and with
what? If imposed how
which working, not that
to be kept alive and
when and what the
worth of their service

But the in any competent number, these competentvaluers
where to bewould they be to be found? right<add>competent in respect</add> of knowledge and active
talent how many?competent in point of probity, how may?
bold points taken together , had many must force And bebe there ever so many of
them in existence, by when are they to be found? When If found, by whom
are they to be paid? paid, in such amount and manner as shall be suffice to engage than
voluntary and contented
server? or, if this can
not be done, are they
to be forced, and by
what means are they to
be forced! and while working under the force by what means are they to be kept alive? |



Identifier: | JB/137/108/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.

Date_1

1819-11-22

Marginal Summary Numbering

15-19

Box

137

Main Headings

radicalism not dangerous

Folio number

108

Info in main headings field

radicalism not

Image

001

Titles

immoveables

Category

text sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

e3

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

[[watermarks::[prince of wales feathers] i&m 1818]]

Marginals

jeremy bentham

Paper Producer

arthur wellesley, duke of wellington

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

1818

Notes public

ID Number

46825

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