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<head>1820 <sic>Jan.</sic> 13<lb/>Radicalism not dangerous</head> <!-- marginal notes and paragraph numbers in pencil --> <p>+ 3 <note>3<hi rend="superscript">o</hi><lb/>III. Experience<lb/>II. Ireland</note><lb/>1 <note>&sect;. 1. <gap/> <gap/></note></p> <p><del>Part II.  Defence from particular experience in the case<lb/>of Irish Parliamentary Emancipation.  Years from 1777<lb/>to 1783.</del></p> <p>The facts are shortly these.</p> <p><note>1<lb/>III Experience in Ireland<lb/><del><gap/></del> <add>Parliamentary</add> emancipation<lb/>Years 1777 to 1783<lb/>Facts these<lb/> 1. Years 1777 to 1783<lb/> 2. French <gap/> apprehended<lb/> 5. Troops but 5,000<lb/> 6. Volunteers associated<lb/> 7. Self-armed, trained,<lb/>defrayed &#x2014; <gap/> <gap/></note></p> <p>1. In Ireland, from the years <add>1777 &#x2014;</add> 1778 to 1783, <del>but for</del> <add>during</add> a space<lb/>of <del>som</del> five <add>or <del>more</del> six years</add> <del>years and upwards</del> the country being, <del><gap/></del> on<lb/><del>war with the revolution <gap/> and</del> the occasion of the<lb/>American, <del>war</del> <add>revolt</add> at war with France and Spain, and<lb/>Ireland under the apprehension of an invasion, <del>the</del><lb/><del>people, in different parts of <gap/></del> <add>with</add> not more than 5000<lb/><del>of the standing army <gap/> distributed though the island</del><lb/><add>regulars</add> for its defence, the people in different parts of the country<lb/>associated themselves, <add><del>of those in armed action</del> of themselves</add> in the character of volunteers, and <del>in this character</del> at their own expense, armed, and<lb/>trained themselves, providing themselves <add>even</add> with cannon in<lb/> some places.  <!-- pencil marks indicating new section --> <p><note>2<lb/> 8 Leaders chosen by privates<lb/> 9. <sic>Uncommissioned</sic><lb/> 10. Therefore without power<lb/>of punishment<lb/>11.  Sole means of <gap/>,<lb/>shame and<lb/>the virtual power of<lb/>expectation.</note></p> <p><add>2.</add> On this occasion <add><del>and for the purpose they were inten</del></add> they chose <add>every where</add> their own leaders.<lb/><del>and whatever description was exer</del>  These leaders, not<lb/>receiving any commission form government, <del>and</del> <add>possessed</add> not <add>any</add> power<lb/>of punishment by authority of law. <!-- pencil bracket in right hand margin across the next paragraph --> Shame, and that power<lb/> of expulsion, which, in every body of men freely associated,<lb/>is vested in the majority by the nature of the case, were the<lb/>only means of <del><gap/> <add>presenting</add></del> deception which <del>they had at <add>had place</del> among</add><lb/><del> <add>there</add> their command <add>only man as</del> the nature of the case afforded. <!-- end of bracketed section --></p> <p><note>3<lb/>12. Numbers per historian<lb/>42,000; 60,000<lb/>per private information<lb/>80,000</note></p> <p>3. In the aggregate, their numbers <add><del>at different times</del></add> were, of course, <add>at different times, different;</add> various,<lb/> and at no time easily reckoned up: <del>at one time</del> 42,000<lb/><del>with</del> <add><del>and</del> at one time 60,000 at another are <del>no <gap/><del></add> numbers spoken of <del>with <gap/></del> by the historians <del>of the time</del><lb/><del>all in were at the time mentioned in print</del> 80,000 is a number<lb/>I have likely heard mentioned by <del>trustworthy persons</del>, <hi rend="superscript">[+]</hi> <del>then resident</del><lb/><note> [+] <del>persons</del> <add>well-informed persons</add><lb/> at that time of an age<lb/><del>near Armagh at <gap/><lb/> time of life</del><lb/>not too <del><gap/></del> early for<lb/>observation.</note></p>         
<head>1820 <sic>Jan.</sic> 13<lb/>Radicalism not dangerous</head> <!-- marginal notes and paragraph numbers in pencil --> <p>+ 3 <note>3<hi rend="superscript">o</hi><lb/>III. Experience<lb/>II. Ireland</note><lb/>1 <note>&sect;. 1. <unclear>Informal positions</unclear></note></p> <p><del>Part II.  Defence from particular experience in the case<lb/>of Irish Parliamentary Emancipation.  Years from 1777<lb/>to 1783.</del></p> <p>The facts are shortly these.</p> <p><note>1<lb/>III Experience II Ireland<lb/><del><gap/></del> <add>Parliamentary</add> emancipation<lb/>Years 1777 to 1783<lb/>Facts these<lb/> 1. Years 1777 to 1783<lb/> 2. French invasion apprehended<lb/> 5. Troops but 5,000<lb/> 6. Volunteers associated<lb/> 7. Self-armed, trained,<lb/>defrayed &#x2014; Cannon <unclear>found</unclear></note></p> <p>1. In Ireland, from the years <add>1777 &#x2014;</add> 1778 to 1783, <del>but for</del> <add>during</add> a space<lb/>of <del>som</del> five <add>or <del>more</del> six years</add> <del>years and upwards,</del> the country being, <del><gap/></del> on<lb/><del>war with the revolution <gap/> and</del> the occasion of the<lb/>American, <del>war</del> <add>revolt,</add> at war with France and Spain, and<lb/>Ireland under the apprehension of an invasion, <del>the</del><lb/><del>people, in different parts of and</del> <add>with</add> not more than 5000<lb/><del>of the standing army <gap/> distributed though the island</del><lb/><add>regulars</add> for its defence, the people in different parts of the country<lb/>associated themselves, <add><del>of those in armed action</del> of themselves</add> in the character of volunteers, and<lb/> <del>in this character</del> at their own expense, armed, and<lb/>trained themselves, providing themselves <add>even</add> with cannon in<lb/> some places.</p> <!-- pencil marks indicating new section --> <p><note>2<lb/> 8 Leaders chosen by privates<lb/> 9. <sic>Uncommissioned</sic><lb/> 10. Therefore without power<lb/>of punishment<lb/>11.  Sole means of discipline,<lb/>shame and<lb/>the virtual power of<lb/>expulsion.</note></p> <p><add>2.</add> On this occasion <add><del>and for the purpose they every where</del></add> they chose <add>every where</add> their own leaders.<lb/><del>and whatever description was exer</del>  These leaders, not<lb/>receiving any commission from government, <del>and</del> <add>possessed</add> not <add>any</add> power<lb/>of punishment by authority of law. <!-- pencil bracket in right hand margin across the next paragraph --> Shame, and that power<lb/> of expulsion, which, in every body of men freely associated,<lb/>is vested in the majority by the nature of the case, were the<lb/>only means of <del><unclear>inferring</unclear><add>presenting</add></del> deception which <del>they had at</del> <add><del>had place</del> among</add><lb/><del><add>there</add> their command <add>only men as</add></del> the nature of the case afforded. <!-- end of bracketed section --></p> <p><note>3<lb/>12. Numbers per historians<lb/>42,000; 60,000<lb/>per private information<lb/>80,000</note></p> <p>3. In the aggregate, their numbers <add><del>at different times</del></add> were, of course, <add>at different times, different;</add> various,<lb/> and at no time easily reckoned up: <del>At one time</del> 42,000<lb/><del>with</del> <add><del>and</del> at one time 60,000 at another are <del>no <gap/></del></add> numbers spoken of <del>with <gap/></del> by <del>the</del> historians <del>of the time</del><lb/><del>all in were at the time mentioned in print:</del> 80,000 is a number<lb/>I have likely heard mentioned by <del>trustworthy persons</del>, <hi rend="superscript">[+]</hi> <del>then resident</del><lb/><note> [+] <del>persons</del> <add>well-informed persons</add><lb/> at that time of an age<lb/><del><unclear>men though</unclear> at <gap/><lb/> time of life</del><lb/>not too <del><gap/></del> early for<lb/>observation.</note></p>         




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1820 Jan. 13
Radicalism not dangerous

+ 3 3o
III. Experience
II. Ireland

1 §. 1. Informal positions

Part II. Defence from particular experience in the case
of Irish Parliamentary Emancipation. Years from 1777
to 1783.

The facts are shortly these.

1
III Experience II Ireland
Parliamentary emancipation
Years 1777 to 1783
Facts these
1. Years 1777 to 1783
2. French invasion apprehended
5. Troops but 5,000
6. Volunteers associated
7. Self-armed, trained,
defrayed — Cannon found

1. In Ireland, from the years 1777 — 1778 to 1783, but for during a space
of som five or more six years years and upwards, the country being, on
war with the revolution and the occasion of the
American, war revolt, at war with France and Spain, and
Ireland under the apprehension of an invasion, the
people, in different parts of and with not more than 5000
of the standing army distributed though the island
regulars for its defence, the people in different parts of the country
associated themselves, of those in armed action of themselves in the character of volunteers, and
in this character at their own expense, armed, and
trained themselves, providing themselves even with cannon in
some places.

2
8 Leaders chosen by privates
9. Uncommissioned
10. Therefore without power
of punishment
11. Sole means of discipline,
shame and
the virtual power of
expulsion.

2. On this occasion and for the purpose they every where they chose every where their own leaders.
and whatever description was exer These leaders, not
receiving any commission from government, and possessed not any power
of punishment by authority of law. Shame, and that power
of expulsion, which, in every body of men freely associated,
is vested in the majority by the nature of the case, were the
only means of inferringpresenting deception which they had at had place among
there their command only men as the nature of the case afforded.

3
12. Numbers per historians
42,000; 60,000
per private information
80,000

3. In the aggregate, their numbers at different times were, of course, at different times, different; various,
and at no time easily reckoned up: At one time 42,000
with and at one time 60,000 at another are no numbers spoken of with by the historians of the time
all in were at the time mentioned in print: 80,000 is a number
I have likely heard mentioned by trustworthy persons, [+] then resident
[+] persons well-informed persons
at that time of an age
men though at
time of life

not too early for
observation.



Identifier: | JB/137/426/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.

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1820-01-13

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137

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radicalism not dangerous

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426

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radicalism not dangerous

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Penner

jeremy bentham

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jeremy bentham

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