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<head>Evidence.]</head><head>relating to PENITENTIARY HOUSES.</head>
<head>Evidence.]</head><head>relating to PENITENTIARY HOUSES.</head>
many as the spot will hold; fixed or changing, selected or casual; of inspection is<lb/><note><hi rend='underline'>J. Bentham, Esq.</hi></note><lb/> just what I want: my reputation rises out of it.<lb/><p>Supposing such Inspector should report that articles have been sold too dear,<lb/> what mode of proceedings should be  adopted to settle that question? &#x2014;With<lb/>submission to those who devise the check, it seems rather for them to propose the mode.  In my<lb/>eyes, checks of this sort do not possess that importance which they appear to do in<lb/>others. As to the right in question, in my own particular and for my own life, I would<lb/>give it up, if gentlemen chose to insist upon such surrender, as thinking it of use.<lb/>But make it the case of any person not connected with me, considering the other<lb/>checks that are provided, I should give as my opinion that which is <hi rend='italics'>not</hi>, if I were<lb/>to say it would be of use.</p>  
many as the spot will hold; fixed or changing, selected or casual; of inspection is<lb/><note><hi rend='underline'>J. Bentham, Esq.</hi></note><lb/> just what I want: my reputation rises out of it.<lb/><p>Supposing such Inspector should report that articles have been sold too dear,<lb/> what mode of proceedings should be  adopted to settle that question? &#x2014;With<lb/>submission to those who devise the check, it seems rather for them to propose the mode.  In my eyes, checks of this sort do not possess that importance which they appear to do in<lb/>others. As to the right in question, in my own particular and for my own life, I would<lb/>give it up, if gentlemen chose to insist upon such surrender, as thinking it of use.<lb/>But make it the case of any person not connected with me, considering the other<lb/>checks that are provided, I should give as my opinion that which is <hi rend='italics'>not</hi>, if I were<lb/>to say it would be of use.</p>  
<p>By whom is any dispute that may arise between ypu and the Inspector to be determined?&#x2014;In my view of the matter, to propose any such arbiter belongs rather to<lb/> Governement than me.<lb/></p>
<p>By whom is any dispute that may arise between ypu and the Inspector to be determined?&#x2014;In my view of the matter, to propose any such arbiter belongs rather to<lb/> Governement than me.<lb/></p>
<p>Can you state any effectual check that would arise from the appointment of this<lb/>Inspector against the evil supposed, of articles being sold at an extravagant price?&#x2014;<lb/>I have already stated, that in my eyes it is no evil; but if it were worth while, I<lb/>think checks sufficient and effectual might be devised. These checks would indeed<lb/>be attended with expense, which expense would, in my view of the matter, be<lb/>thrown away: yet still they would be checks. An Inspector might be bribed, or he<lb/>might refuse to be bribed. What I proposed was, that at any rate the Inspectors<lb/>should be changed.<lb/></p>
<p>Can you state any effectual check that would arise from the appointment of this<lb/>Inspector against the evil supposed, of articles being sold at an extravagant price?&#x2014;<lb/>I have already stated, that in my eyes it is no evil; but if it were worth while, I<lb/>think checks sufficient and effectual might be devised. These checks would indeed<lb/>be attended with expense, which expense would, in my view of the matter, be<lb/>thrown away: yet still they would be checks. An Inspector might be bribed, or he<lb/>might refuse to be bribed. What I proposed was, that at any rate the Inspectors<lb/>should be changed.<lb/></p>

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This Page Has Not Been Transcribed Yet Evidence.]relating to PENITENTIARY HOUSES.

many as the spot will hold; fixed or changing, selected or casual; of inspection is
J. Bentham, Esq.
just what I want: my reputation rises out of it.

Supposing such Inspector should report that articles have been sold too dear,
what mode of proceedings should be adopted to settle that question? —With
submission to those who devise the check, it seems rather for them to propose the mode. In my eyes, checks of this sort do not possess that importance which they appear to do in
others. As to the right in question, in my own particular and for my own life, I would
give it up, if gentlemen chose to insist upon such surrender, as thinking it of use.
But make it the case of any person not connected with me, considering the other
checks that are provided, I should give as my opinion that which is not, if I were
to say it would be of use.

By whom is any dispute that may arise between ypu and the Inspector to be determined?—In my view of the matter, to propose any such arbiter belongs rather to
Governement than me.

Can you state any effectual check that would arise from the appointment of this
Inspector against the evil supposed, of articles being sold at an extravagant price?—
I have already stated, that in my eyes it is no evil; but if it were worth while, I
think checks sufficient and effectual might be devised. These checks would indeed
be attended with expense, which expense would, in my view of the matter, be
thrown away: yet still they would be checks. An Inspector might be bribed, or he
might refuse to be bribed. What I proposed was, that at any rate the Inspectors
should be changed.

By the 8th article of the contract, the convicts are to be each supplied with a bed
and bedding of sufficient warmth, and all possible attention is to be paid to the cleanliness
of such convicts and prisoners in every respect, as far as circumstances will
permit; and by the 9th, the Penitentiary House is to be sufficiently warmed, and
every proper precaution taken to prevent the same from becoming infectious and
unwholesome, and to preserve the convicts and prisoners confined therein in good
health; who is to be the judge, under this contract, of the sufficiency of the bedding
allowed, of the sufficiency of the mode of warming the bulding, and of the arrangements
to be made under these articles for preserving the cleanliness and health of the
prisoners?— The judge of all these things must be, I think, he whom Government
please; be he who he may, it is easier for him to see in my instance wheter they
have all these things than in any other establishment.

Is there any person mentioned in the contract to inspect the due performance of
these articles ?—I do not know that there is; but it rests with Gevernment to appoint
any such perform, and I have no objection to it.

Do you mean that you would be bound by the opinion of such person, in case you
should disagree with him? No; it is rather too much to be bound by the opinion
of a person I know nothing of.


Identifier: | JB/115/158/079"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 115.

Date_1

1811-05-31

Marginal Summary Numbering

Box

115

Main Headings

panopticon

Folio number

158

Info in main headings field

Image

079

Titles

reports from the committee on the laws relating to penitentiary houses / 199 & 217

Category

printed material

Number of Pages

135

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

[[page_numbering::[1-2], 3-131]]

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Marginals

Paper Producer

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

[[notes_public::"jeremy bentham / 20 feby 1824" [note in bentham's hand]]]

ID Number

37533

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