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10 April 1809

§. 2. Defence 2d. Benefit of instruction.

2. Another advantage is the skill which in virtue of
the principle f system of permanence, gentlemen acquire at present in the various manufactures
the operations details of which are liable to be brought to view
for the purpose on the occasion of the class of causes (viz. causes
a sort of smuggling causes) which in the judicatory presided by the head Chief Baron here in
question produce almost the the sole demand for special Juries.

Now what does this lead to? It leads to this unless it be to this: – viz.
that for trial of causes of this description, Jury trial, performed by Juries, such as
the constitution designed them to be, are is compleatly unfit: and
that the assemblage of persons who under the name of Jurymen
are employed in the trial of those causes with ought
to be if they are not already, placed upon the footing of pupils so many the members of a college or
Academy, like the military institutions at High Wycombe+ + Enquire out their proper designations., or the
Oriental institution in Hartford+ – a set of pupils, who
that on each the occasion of each manufacturer they may be competent to be possessors
of a scientific acquaintance with the operations of that
manufacture, must have by the means of an appropriate education,
have become in the the mysteries of every one.

To give to this show shadow of advantage any reality thing of a body as applied
to any one branch of manufacture, how many years quere what might be
the number of years at 50 80 causes per year (for this is the
number stated+) that would be necessary? And ought not
some previous time to be allowed for a state of cadetship or apprenticeship,
that time may be taken given for the making acquaintance
with each trade, before learning of each art before they are
admitted to act as Judges and Professors of it?

And if the population of the Exchequer Jury box is actually
composed of gentlemen who have travelled having travelled, have
voluntarily submitted to travel, through this course of encyclopedical course of instruction
what in point of independence must be and have all along been
the condition of those gentlemen?

Sub-Note ( )
The words are –
.. "The instructing jury
"after Jury, in the conduct
"of many species
"of manufacturer, and
"the laws on the subject,
"exposes both parties to
"the hazard of the points
"being ill understood, and
"hastily determined by them."

If The expression seems be
not quite so clear as
could be wished, that
argument, (it is presumed)
will be found
to amount to what is
above.

The labour of the
prompter seems to
have been not altogether
out of view, while here
occupied in drawing
a picture of the eventual disadvantages
under which
in the under the proposed
better-than-will system,
i.e. the constitutional
system, the pupils
would have to act.

Identifier: | JB/118/421/002"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 118.
Date_1	1812-09-10	Marginal Summary Numbering	not numbered
Box	118	Main Headings	panopticon
Folio number	421	Info in main headings field	to ld sidmouth
Image	002	Titles
Category	correspondence	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering	c2
Penner	jeremy bentham	Watermarks	th 1806
Marginals	jeremy bentham	Paper Producer	andre morellet
Corrections		Paper Produced in Year	1806
Notes public	draft; not included in letter 2190, vol. 8	ID Number	39475
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