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<!-- ENTER TRANSCRIPTION BELOW THIS LINE --><!-- This page is organised in two columns --> <p> 13</p> <p> than ample return <gap/> I had been copying and <lb/> sending him all the passages in your letters<lb/> which had any relation to political affairs, <lb/> with a fine <foreign>exardium</foreign> of my own to the <gap/> <lb/> of them.  <del> <gap/> <gap/> </del>.  The best was that in which <lb/> you talked of sending him the MS book of travels.<lb/> Here follows my answer.</p> <p> "M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi>. <unclear>J
<!-- ENTER TRANSCRIPTION BELOW THIS LINE --><!-- This page is organised in two columns --> <p> 13</p> <p> than ample return <gap/> I had been copying and <lb/> sending him all the passages in your letters<lb/> which had any relation to political affairs, <lb/> with a fine <foreign>exardium</foreign> of my own to the <gap/> <lb/> of them.  <del> <gap/> <gap/> </del>.  The best was that in which <lb/> you talked of sending him the MS book of travels.<lb/> Here follows my answer.</p> <p> "M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi>. <unclear>J
</unclear> presents his Compliments to L<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> Shelburne,<lb/> and hopes it will not be imputed to any <lb/> "want of respect or gratitude that he declines waiting <lb/> "on his lordship for the present, being about to leave<lb/> "London for the summer in the course of a few days,<lb/> "and in the mean time confined by very particular<lb/> "engagements.  Mr <del><gap/> </del> will be in town again the <lb/> "beginning of November, and will the  endeavour<lb/> "to avail himself of the honour of his Lordships<lb/> "invitation."</p> <p>As to the reasons of my declining &#x2014; 1. I had a <lb/> mind he should be Introd. to Code before he saw me: <lb/> 2.  I did not want him <gap/> fancy that his acquaintance<lb/> was a thing I <gap/> disposed to jump at.<lb/> 3.  My letters I was afraid had gone rather too far on<lb/> the side of humility, and he had not taken an <lb/> early enough notice of them.  Upon the whole<lb/> I thought we should meet upon a much better<lb/> footing in November than now.</p> <p> The 13<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> or 14<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> Wilson and I <del>leave</del> <Add> go to </add> Thorpe for <lb/> the summer.  If you have any thing <gap/> <lb/> <foreign>vis a vis de</foreign> Q.S.P. to write and that would <lb/> get here before Nov<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> 6t<hi rend="superscript">h</hi>, write it rather by the post <lb/> than by Sneyd for fear of accidents, though I shall <lb/> take measures for <add> preventing</add> their getting into <sic>Q.S.P.ian</sic><lb/> hands before mine.  I shall write again before <lb/> I leave town and therefore will write no more<lb/> at present.</p> <p> Q.S.P. went about 3 weeks ago to a <lb/> bit of a country house they have taken for <lb/> the summer at Epsom.  He has been ill of a fever, <lb/> at one time rather dangerously, but is recovered.</p> <pb/> <p> 14</p> <head>De Court</head> <p> Dordrecht 10<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> July 1780</p> <p> "I gave already orders for the books which you desired,<lb/> "and if there is any opportunity of sending the <lb/> "work of Mr Veal de Clairbois <hi rend="superscript">+</hi> to Petersburg, I <lb/> "will address it after your orders.  The queries of Mr<lb/> "Bentham were so <sic>extensif</sic>, that a <sic>compleat</sic> answer<lb/> "would fill 2 volumes, for the greater part of <lb/> "no use to him [I am afraid then these queries were<lb/> "a little vague] who has already a greater knowledge <lb/> "in that <sic>articel</sic> as I may give him; therefore <add. I </add> will <lb/> "pass <del>all</del> slightly those universal queries, and <lb/> "insert a little more upon those which are more <lb/> "particular, but I want myself to be instructed<lb/> "first, for which I apply myself in entering in<lb/> "discourse and questioning persons of that profession<lb/> "As soon as I see that I can't <sic>compleat</sic> it more, I <lb/> "will send it <add>to</add> you.</p> <p> Decourt you are to know has been seeking<lb/> my advice about a law dispute he has been <lb/> having with a Merchant here; to which circumstance<lb/> I suppose may be attributed what <gap/> <lb/> you may have of getting an answer to <gap/> <lb/> queries.  The dispute however is just <gap/>; <lb/> which circumstance is rather against you.</p> <p> <hi rend="superscript">+</hi> <foreign> Epui geometrique &amp; practique sur l'architecture <lb/> navale par M. de Vial de Clairbois, sous-ingenieur-constructeur <lb/> de la Marine un volume <lb/> de siscours, &amp; un volume de <gap/> a Brest<lb/> chez R. Malassis: &amp; se trouve a Paris chez<lb/> Durand, eneven, librain rue Galande 8<hi rend="superscript">oo</hi><lb/> 1776.</foreign></p>  
</unclear> presents his Compliments to L<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> Shelburne,<lb/> and hopes it will not be imputed to any <lb/> "want of respect or gratitude that he declines waiting <lb/> "on his Lordship for the present, being about to leave<lb/> "London for the summer in the course of a few days,<lb/> "and in the mean time confined by very particular<lb/> "engagements.  M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> <del><gap/> </del> will be in town again the <lb/> "beginning of November, and will the  endeavour<lb/> "to avail himself of the honour of his Lordships<lb/> "invitation."</p> <p>As to the reasons of my declining &#x2014; 1. I had a <lb/> mind he should be Introd. to Code before he saw me: <lb/> 2.  I did not want him <gap/> fancy that his acquaintance<lb/> was a thing I <gap/> disposed to jump at.<lb/> 3.  My letters I was afraid had gone rather too far on<lb/> the side of humility, and he had not taken an <lb/> early enough notice of them.  Upon the whole<lb/> I thought we should meet upon a much better<lb/> footing in November than now.</p> <p> The 13<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> or 14<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> Wilson and I <del>leave</del> <Add> go to </add> Thorpe for <lb/> the summer.  If you have any thing <gap/> <lb/> <foreign>vis a vis de</foreign> Q.S.P. to write and that would <lb/> get here before Nov<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> 6t<hi rend="superscript">h</hi>, write it rather by the post <lb/> than by Sneyd for fear of accidents, though I shall <lb/> take measures for <add> preventing</add> their getting into <sic>Q.S.P.ian</sic><lb/> hands before mine.  I shall write again before <lb/> I leave town and therefore will write no more<lb/> at present.</p> <p> Q.S.P. went about 3 weeks ago to a <lb/> bit of a country house they have taken for <lb/> the summer at Epsom.  He has been ill of a fever, <lb/> at one time rather dangerously, but is recovered.</p> <pb/> <p> 14</p> <head>De Court</head> <p> Dordrecht 13<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> July 1780</p> <p> "I gave already orders for the books which you desired,<lb/> "and if there is any opportunity of sending the <lb/> "work of Mr Vial de Clairbois <hi rend="superscript">+</hi> to Petersburg, I <lb/> "will address it after your orders.  The queries of Mr<lb/> "Bentham were so <sic>extensif</sic>, that a <sic>compleat</sic> answer<lb/> "would fill 2 volumes, for the greater part of <lb/> "no use to him [I am afraid then these queries were<lb/> "a little vague] who has already a greater knowledge <lb/> "in that <sic>articel</sic> as I may give him; therefore <add> I </add> will <lb/> "pass <del>all</del> slightly those universal queries, and <lb/> "insert a little more upon those which are more <lb/> "particular, but I want myself to be instructed<lb/> "first, for which I apply myself in entering in<lb/> "discourse and questioning persons of that profession<lb/> "As soon as I see that I can't <sic>compleat</sic> it more, I <lb/> "will send it <add>to</add> you.</p> <p> Decourt you are to know has been taking<lb/> my advice about a law dispute he has been <lb/> having with a Merchant here; to which circumstance<lb/> I suppose may be attributed what <gap/> <lb/> you may have of getting an answer to <gap/> <lb/> queries.  The dispute however is just <gap/>; <lb/> which circumstance is rather against you.</p> <p> <hi rend="superscript">+</hi> <foreign> Epui geometrique &amp; practique sur l'architecture <lb/> navale par M. de Vial de Clairbois, sous-ingenieur-constructeur <lb/> de la Marine un volume <lb/> de discours, &amp; un volume de <gap/> a Brest<lb/> chez R. Malassis: &amp; se trouve a Paris chez<lb/> Durand, eneven, librain rue Galande 8<hi rend="superscript">oo</hi><lb/> 1776.</foreign></p>  




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than ample return I had been copying and
sending him all the passages in your letters
which had any relation to political affairs,
with a fine exardium of my own to the
of them. . The best was that in which
you talked of sending him the MS book of travels.
Here follows my answer.

"Mr. J presents his Compliments to Ld Shelburne,
and hopes it will not be imputed to any
"want of respect or gratitude that he declines waiting
"on his Lordship for the present, being about to leave
"London for the summer in the course of a few days,
"and in the mean time confined by very particular
"engagements. Mr will be in town again the
"beginning of November, and will the endeavour
"to avail himself of the honour of his Lordships
"invitation."

As to the reasons of my declining — 1. I had a
mind he should be Introd. to Code before he saw me:
2. I did not want him fancy that his acquaintance
was a thing I disposed to jump at.
3. My letters I was afraid had gone rather too far on
the side of humility, and he had not taken an
early enough notice of them. Upon the whole
I thought we should meet upon a much better
footing in November than now.

The 13th or 14th Wilson and I leave go to Thorpe for
the summer. If you have any thing
vis a vis de Q.S.P. to write and that would
get here before Novr 6th, write it rather by the post
than by Sneyd for fear of accidents, though I shall
take measures for preventing their getting into Q.S.P.ian
hands before mine. I shall write again before
I leave town and therefore will write no more
at present.

Q.S.P. went about 3 weeks ago to a
bit of a country house they have taken for
the summer at Epsom. He has been ill of a fever,
at one time rather dangerously, but is recovered.


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14

De Court

Dordrecht 13th July 1780

"I gave already orders for the books which you desired,
"and if there is any opportunity of sending the
"work of Mr Vial de Clairbois + to Petersburg, I
"will address it after your orders. The queries of Mr
"Bentham were so extensif, that a compleat answer
"would fill 2 volumes, for the greater part of
"no use to him [I am afraid then these queries were
"a little vague] who has already a greater knowledge
"in that articel as I may give him; therefore I will
"pass all slightly those universal queries, and
"insert a little more upon those which are more
"particular, but I want myself to be instructed
"first, for which I apply myself in entering in
"discourse and questioning persons of that profession
"As soon as I see that I can't compleat it more, I
"will send it to you.

Decourt you are to know has been taking
my advice about a law dispute he has been
having with a Merchant here; to which circumstance
I suppose may be attributed what
you may have of getting an answer to
queries. The dispute however is just ;
which circumstance is rather against you.

+ Epui geometrique & practique sur l'architecture
navale par M. de Vial de Clairbois, sous-ingenieur-constructeur
de la Marine un volume
de discours, & un volume de a Brest
chez R. Malassis: & se trouve a Paris chez
Durand, eneven, librain rue Galande 8oo
1776.



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Jeremy Bentham

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