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<head>N.S. Wales</head>
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<p>27 May 1802</p>
<p><!-- written in pencil -->27 May 1802</p>
<note>Note<lb/>
<p><!-- written in pencil -->N.S. Wales</p>
<note><!-- written in pencil -->Note<lb/>
2. Reformation</note>
2. Reformation</note>
<p>Thus stands the comparison upon the ground of general principles<lb/>
<p>Thus stands the comparison upon the ground of general principles<lb/>
or <hi rend="underline">theory</hi>, if a word, in such disgrace with men in whose vocabulary<lb/>
or <hi rend="underline">theory</hi>, if a word, in such disgrace with men in whose vocabulary<lb/>
wisdom is synonymous with practice, may be considered. A theory is no further good no<lb/>
wisdom is synonymous with practice, may be considered. A theory is no<!-- continues in margin --> further good no<lb/>
further than as far<lb/>
further than as far<lb/>
as its decisions as<lb/>
as its decisions as<lb/>
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"of New South Wales."</hi>
"of New South Wales."</hi>
</p>
</p>
<p>Of the four other grounds, the strongest has<lb/>
<p>Of the four other grounds, the strongest has<lb/>
been display'd: how much <add>less</add> weaker than nothing has been<lb/>
been display'd: how much <add>less</add> weaker than nothing has been<lb/>
already seen: there remains this single ground <del>for</del> <add>to</add><lb/>
already seen: there remains this single ground <del>for</del> <add>to</add><lb/>
<del>bearing</del> <add>bear</add> the strain of the whole measure.</p>
<del>bearing</del> <add>bear</add> the strain of the whole measure.</p>
<p>To justify the <gap/> shown for this establishment</p>
<p>To justify <add>this</add> <del>his</del> measure. I do not mean the<lb/>
<p>To justify <add>this</add> <del>his</del> measure. I do not mean the<lb/>
course taken for the support of it a collateral object that has been<lb/>
course taken for the support of it a collateral object that has been<lb/>
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1. That of the two rival modes of punishment&#x2014;<add>the punishment by</add> that<lb/>
1. That of the two rival modes of punishment&#x2014;<add>the punishment by</add> that<lb/>
of <add>the</add> <del>transportation</del> <add>the system of transportation</add> to New South Wales and that of the <add>the punishment</add><lb/>
of <add>the</add> <del>transportation</del> <add>the system of transportation</add> to New South Wales and that of the <add>the punishment</add><lb/>
<add>by confinement under the modest Penitentiary establishment+</add> <note>+and the use thus made of it</note><lb/>
<add>by confinement under the modest Penitentiary establishment</add> <note><!-- written in pencil -->and the use thus made of it</note><lb/>
Penitentiary System&#x2014;the former is the preferable one.<lb/>
Penitentiary System&#x2014;the former is the preferable one.<lb/>
2. That it is to such a degree preferable as to justify<lb/>
2. That it is to such a degree preferable as to justify<lb/>
the laying aside the other altogether: <add>and <gap/></add> consequently<lb/>
the laying aside the other altogether: <add>and <gap/></add> consequently<lb/>
<del>to justify the bestowing</del> <add>the imposing on the public</add> that <sic>expence</sic>, in all <add>its shapes</add> <del>measures</del><lb/>
<del>to justify the bestowing</del> <add>the imposing on the public</add> that <sic>expence</sic>, in all <add>its shapes</add> <del>measures</del><lb/>
<del>of ways that would be</del> <add>means however <gap/></add> with which the laying aside of<lb/>
<del>of ways that would be</del> <add><!-- written in red ink -->means however <gap/></add> with which the laying aside of<lb/>
the discarded measure would be attended to. I mean<lb/>
the discarded measure would be attended to. I mean<lb/>
always supposing the professions made in respect of compensating<lb/>
always supposing the professions made in respect of compensating<lb/>
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<p>The first proposition is the <del>price</del> leading one: <add>in</add> this<lb/>
<p>The first proposition is the <del>price</del> leading one: <add>in</add> this<lb/>
is contained the <add>principal</add> point in issue.<add>+</add> The wager being<lb/>
is contained the <add>principal</add> point in issue.<add>+</add> <note><add>+</add> <!-- written in red ink -->determined in the negative<lb/>and <add>it will</add> will render the other<lb/>unnecessary</note>
laid
<del><add>how can justice be done</add> (for this may be set down among the cases in<lb/>
which there is no doing justice without a wager <add>a wager</add></del>) how<lb/>shall the cause <add>question</add> be tried? by analytical investigation<lb/>supported by specific evidence? or<lb/>or in the more usual mode by declamatory assertion<lb/><add>convey'd</add> <del>supported</del> by a few customary phrases? <del>Your Lordship<lb/>
being judge</del> <add>In the former mode</add> <hi rend="underline">By the former standard certainly</hi> says a<lb/>voice which I recognize for Your Lordships <add>being that of reason &amp; justice</add> Your Lordship<lb/>being judge. By the former<add>+</add> as being the only true one.
</p><note><add>+</add> determined in the negative<lb/>and <add>it will</add> will render the other<lb/>unnecessary</note>


 
The wager being<lb/>
<note><add>+</add> (on proper occasions<lb/>
laid [+]<note><add>[+]</add> (on proper occasions<lb/>
the law with all its<lb/>
the law with all its<lb/>
aversion to gaming<lb/>
aversion to gaming<lb/>
has no objection to<lb/>
has no objection to<lb/>
a wager)</note>
a wager)</note>
<del><add>how can justice be done</add> (for this may be set down among the cases in<lb/>
which there is no doing justice without a wager <add>a wager</add></del>) how<lb/>shall the cause <add>question</add> be tried? by analytical investigation<lb/>supported by specific evidence? or<lb/>or in the more usual mode by declamatory assertion<lb/><add>convey'd</add> <del>supported</del> by a few customary phrases? <del>Your Lordship<lb/>
being judge</del> <add>In the former mode</add> <hi rend="underline">By the former standard certainly</hi> says a<lb/>voice which I recognize for Your Lordships <add>being that of reason &amp; justice</add> Your Lordship<lb/>being judge. By the former<add>[+]</add>
<note><add>[+]</add> far as it is from<lb/>
being either the more<lb/>
commodious of the two<lb/>
<del>no more <gap/></del></note> as being the only true one.
</p>




<note><add>+</add> far as it is from<lb/>
being either the more<lb/>
commodious of the two<lb/>
<del>no more <gap/></del></note>


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27 May 1802

N.S. Wales

Note
2. Reformation

Thus stands the comparison upon the ground of general principles
or theory, if a word, in such disgrace with men in whose vocabulary
wisdom is synonymous with practice, may be considered. A theory is no further good no
further than as far
as its decisions as
occasion serves, between
receive the confirmation
of per experience.

Fifth and last ground for the relinquishment of the
Penitentiary system "the improved state of the Colony
"of New South Wales."

Of the four other grounds, the strongest has
been display'd: how much less weaker than nothing has been
already seen: there remains this single ground for to
bearing bear the strain of the whole measure.

To justify the shown for this establishment

To justify this his measure. I do not mean the
course taken for the support of it a collateral object that has been
made of pursuing it but the measure itself supposing it
to be pursued by justifiable means the Duke of Portland
and his associates have these two propositions to make good
1. That of the two rival modes of punishment—the punishment by that
of the transportation the system of transportation to New South Wales and that of the the punishment
by confinement under the modest Penitentiary establishment and the use thus made of it
Penitentiary System—the former is the preferable one.
2. That it is to such a degree preferable as to justify
the laying aside the other altogether: and consequently
to justify the bestowing the imposing on the public that expence, in all its shapes measures
of ways that would be means however with which the laying aside of
the discarded measure would be attended to. I mean
always supposing the professions made in respect of compensating
for the relinquishment had been sincere.

The first proposition is the price leading one: in this
is contained the principal point in issue.+ + determined in the negative
and it will will render the other
unnecessary
The wager being
laid [+][+] (on proper occasions
the law with all its
aversion to gaming
has no objection to
a wager)
how can justice be done (for this may be set down among the cases in
which there is no doing justice without a wager a wager
) how
shall the cause question be tried? by analytical investigation
supported by specific evidence? or
or in the more usual mode by declamatory assertion
convey'd supported by a few customary phrases? Your Lordship
being judge
In the former mode By the former standard certainly says a
voice which I recognize for Your Lordships being that of reason & justice Your Lordship
being judge. By the former[+] [+] far as it is from
being either the more
commodious of the two
no more
as being the only true one.




Identifier: | JB/116/305/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.

Date_1

1802-05-27

Marginal Summary Numbering

not numbered

Box

116

Main Headings

panopticon versus new south wales

Folio number

305

Info in main headings field

n. s. wales

Image

001

Titles

Category

text sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

f1* f18*

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

1800

Marginals

jeremy bentham

Paper Producer

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

1800

Notes public

ID Number

37838

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