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<head>Letter 3<hi rend="superscript">d</hi></head>
<p>24 Nov<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> 1802</p>
<note>Note<lb/>
XVI. Improved prisons</note>
<p>In the Cold Bath Fields prison, first cost of building
<del>per<lb/>
head</del>, upon the best <add>best <del>most authoritative</del></add> information that could be obtained and<lb/>the most authoritative information was obtained, no less than <add>twenty</add> <del>40</del><lb/>times as much per head as upon the Panopticon plan.<lb/>The calculation is at Your Lordship's command at any time.</p>
<p>As to employment and maintenance, the state of it in those<lb/>
respects can not be better <add>exhibited</add> delineated than by the following extracts<lb/>
from a late publication, <del>the author of</del> which carries the<lb/>
evidence of its <add>own</add> trustworthiness upon the face of it: and of which<lb/>
the author is I dare say perfectly well known to them those who<lb/>
know any thing, though <add>as</add> most perfectly unknown to me.</p>
<p>Without the decrease in the <hi rend="underline">number</hi> of crimes, the scene of<lb/>
them may have been changed. The persons deterred may<lb/>
have been deterred&#x2014;not from committing crime, but from<lb/>
committing crimes <add>within the precincts of</add> a county in which so unpleasant<lb/>
a mode of spending time may be the result. It is among the<lb/>
observations made by the <add>intelligent professors and</add> practitioners in moral therapeutics<lb/>
in Philadelphia, that among those to whose <add>eyes</add> the prospect<lb/>
of imprisonment under the penitentiary form<add>+</add>
<del><gap/> is<lb/>
unsupportable</del>, the prospect of imprisonment in the ordinary<lb/>form is a matter of comparative indifference. <add>In the unimproved prisons,</add> The loss<lb/>of the liberty of loco-motion is almost made up for<lb/>by the absence of labour, joined to the <add>constant</add> opportunity of congenial<lb/>conversation, sweetened by the occasional enjoyment<lb/>of the means of drunkenness.</p>
<p>On the ground of reformation, the publication of M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Neild,<lb/>
just <del>put</del> <add>fallen</add> into my hands, affords a comparison not quote so<lb/>
much to the advantage of England as could be wished. In<lb/>
Philadelphia, backsliders not more than 5 in <del>a hundred</del> 100<lb/>
in the course of 5 years, even including the <del><gap/></del> pardoned, on whom<lb/>
the discipline with its benefits had not been <gap/>. From Dorchester, in<lb/>
<add>the</add></p>
<note>Account of the Society<lb/>
for the discharge of small<lb/>
debts 1802.</note>


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Letter 3d

24 Novr 1802

Note
XVI. Improved prisons

In the Cold Bath Fields prison, first cost of building per
head
, upon the best best most authoritative information that could be obtained and
the most authoritative information was obtained, no less than twenty 40
times as much per head as upon the Panopticon plan.
The calculation is at Your Lordship's command at any time.

As to employment and maintenance, the state of it in those
respects can not be better exhibited delineated than by the following extracts
from a late publication, the author of which carries the
evidence of its own trustworthiness upon the face of it: and of which
the author is I dare say perfectly well known to them those who
know any thing, though as most perfectly unknown to me.

Without the decrease in the number of crimes, the scene of
them may have been changed. The persons deterred may
have been deterred—not from committing crime, but from
committing crimes within the precincts of a county in which so unpleasant
a mode of spending time may be the result. It is among the
observations made by the intelligent professors and practitioners in moral therapeutics
in Philadelphia, that among those to whose eyes the prospect
of imprisonment under the penitentiary form+ is
unsupportable
, the prospect of imprisonment in the ordinary
form is a matter of comparative indifference. In the unimproved prisons, The loss
of the liberty of loco-motion is almost made up for
by the absence of labour, joined to the constant opportunity of congenial
conversation, sweetened by the occasional enjoyment
of the means of drunkenness.

On the ground of reformation, the publication of Mr Neild,
just put fallen into my hands, affords a comparison not quote so
much to the advantage of England as could be wished. In
Philadelphia, backsliders not more than 5 in a hundred 100
in the course of 5 years, even including the pardoned, on whom
the discipline with its benefits had not been . From Dorchester, in
the

Account of the Society
for the discharge of small
debts 1802.



Identifier: | JB/116/548/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.

Date_1

1802-11-24

Marginal Summary Numbering

Box

116

Main Headings

panopticon versus new south wales

Folio number

548

Info in main headings field

letter 3d

Image

001

Titles

note

Category

correspondence

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

e2 / f14**

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

Marginals

Paper Producer

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

letter was never sent; see note 8 to letter 1747, vol. 7

ID Number

38081

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