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<p> 1829 Aug. 3</p> <head>Reformists reviewed</head> <p> <!-- pencil addition --> <note>Beginning</note></p> <p> <!-- number in pencil --> (9 <note> <del>procedure</del> <add> J.B.</add><lb/><!-- number in pencil --> 20<lb/> Judges dealing with <lb/> the parties instead<lb/> of with their attorney &#x2014;<lb/> advantages</note></p> <p> Dealing with parties the Judges and their <unclear>respective</unclear> myrmidon<lb/> had to deal with persons whose interests were opposite<lb/> to theirs.  <del>H</del> The interest of Judges required that the parties should <lb/> be <unclear>friends</unclear>:  the interest of the parties required that parties should not be<lb/> <unclear>friends</unclear>.  <del>If by any man it</del> In so far as things could be ordered<lb/> in such sort that parties instead of doing their own business themselves<lb/> should employ substitutes to do it for them, <add> assistants to do it with them in that way still better</add> Judges by entering<lb/> into a virtual partnership with these assistants or these substitutes<lb/> would meet at once a most <gap/> <add> debateable</add> addition to their <gap/><lb/> and <gap/> cases.  In <add> By</add> so far as their assistants and<lb/> substitutes could be brought into existence, this community of<lb/> interest followed <add> found itself</add> of course.  The greater the number of suits<lb/> an assistant of this sort <del>had been</del> employed in it, the greater was<lb/> his <gap/> the better was he qualified for its earning as of its<lb/> succeeding suits: the greater <add> <add><gap/><gap/></add> the number of these suits, the  often<lb/>did he come in contact with the Judges and their abovementioned<lb/> substitutes, to neither party were it possible that these communities<lb/> of interest (sensible interest will relate to that of the public it<lb/> <del><gap/> being <gap/></del> might well be called) should for <add>by</add> a moment<lb/> be a secret. <hi rend="superscript">[+]</hi> <note> <hi rend="superscript">[+]</hi> The more the Judge<lb/> and their <gap/> gave, the<lb/> more the assistants of the<lb/> parties gave: the more the<lb/> assistants of the parties<lb/> gave the more the Judges<lb/> and their <gap/> gave<lb/> the more all these <gap/> <lb/> gave the more<lb/> the parties lose.</note>  The consequence was obvious <add> followed of course</add> and unavoidable<lb/> they played into one another's hands.  Thus <unclear>lampless</unclear> <add>under the existing system <add> in <gap/> or state of things</add> is the <unclear>candle</unclear><lb/> of the miserable suitor: enemies are all <add>natural enemies</add> he has to deal with,<lb/> all on whom has lot depends: friends &#x2014; natural friends he has<lb/> none.  Not less decidedly nor under the existing system less irremediably<lb/> <del>no</del> <add>is</add> the interest of his <add> <gap/></add> assistants his <gap/> his<lb/> guardian in whose hand his fate reposes, than that of this<lb/> adversary in the suit, against the adverse interest of an adversary<lb/> so called he is upon his guard, and to a certain degree his<lb/> or his professed assistants or real assistants used a support<lb/> against the adverse interest of these his professed guardians<lb/> and supporters he has no support.</p>  
<head>1829 Aug. 3<lb/>
Reformists reviewed</head>
<note>Beginning</note>  


<note>(9. Procedure<lb/>
J.B.</note>


<note>20<lb/>Judges dealing with <lb/> the parties instead<lb/> of with their attornies&#x2014;<lb/> advantages.</note>
<p>Dealing with parties the Judges and their respective myrmidon<lb/>
had to deal with persons whose interests were opposite<lb/>
to theirs. <del>H</del> The interest of Judges required that the parties should <lb/>
be <unclear>friends</unclear>: the interest of the parties required that parties should<lb/>
not be <unclear>friends</unclear>. <del>If by any man it</del> In so far as things could be ordered<lb/> in such sort that parties instead of doing their own business themselves<lb/> should employ substitutes to do it for them, <add>assistants to do it with them in that way still better</add> Judges by entering<lb/> into a virtual partnership with these assistants or these substitutes<lb/> would meet at once a most deniable <add>debateable</add> addition to their emolument<lb/> and their cases. <add> But</add> In so far as their assistants and<lb/> substitutes could be brought into existence, this community of <lb/>interest followed <add>found itself</add> of course. The greater the number of suits<lb/>
an assistant of this sort <del>had been</del> employed in it, the greater was<lb/>
his capacity the better was he qualified for its coming on of all<lb/>
succeeding suits: <add>and moreover</add> the greater the number of these suits, thus often<lb/>
did he come in contact with the Judges and their abovementioned<lb/>
subordinates, to neither party were it possible that these communities<lb/>
of interest (sensible interest will relate to that of the public it<lb/>
<del>might well be termed</del> might well be called) should <add>being</add> for a moment<lb/> be a secret.<hi rend="superscript">[+]</hi> The consequence was obvious <add>followed of course</add> and unavoidable:<lb/> they played into one another's hands. Thus hapless <add>under the existing system / in such a state of things</add> is the conduct<lb/>
of the miserable suitor: enemies <add>natural enemies</add> are all he has to deal with,<lb/>
all on whom his lot depends: friends&#x2014;natural friends he has<lb/>
none. Not less decidedly nor under the existing system less irremediably<lb/>
<del>nor</del> <add>is</add> the interest of <add>these</add> his assistants his troops his<lb/> guardians in whose hand his fate reposes, than that of this<lb/> adversary in the suit, against the adverse interest of an adversary<lb/> so called he is upon his guard, and to a certain degree lies<lb/> in his professed assistants or real assistants and a support<lb/> against the adverse interest of these his professed guardians<lb/>
and supporters he has no support.</p>
<note><hi rend="superscript">[+]</hi> The more the Judge<lb/> and their creatures gave, the<lb/> more the assistants of the<lb/> parties gave: the more the<lb/> assistants of the parties<lb/> gave the more the Judges<lb/> and their creatures gave<lb/> the more all these diffuse <lb/> <gap/> gave the more<lb/> the parties lose.</note>


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1829 Aug. 3
Reformists reviewed
Beginning

(9. Procedure
J.B.

20
Judges dealing with
the parties instead
of with their attornies—
advantages.

Dealing with parties the Judges and their respective myrmidon
had to deal with persons whose interests were opposite
to theirs. H The interest of Judges required that the parties should
be friends: the interest of the parties required that parties should
not be friends. If by any man it In so far as things could be ordered
in such sort that parties instead of doing their own business themselves
should employ substitutes to do it for them, assistants to do it with them in that way still better Judges by entering
into a virtual partnership with these assistants or these substitutes
would meet at once a most deniable debateable addition to their emolument
and their cases. But In so far as their assistants and
substitutes could be brought into existence, this community of
interest followed found itself of course. The greater the number of suits
an assistant of this sort had been employed in it, the greater was
his capacity the better was he qualified for its coming on of all
succeeding suits: and moreover the greater the number of these suits, thus often
did he come in contact with the Judges and their abovementioned
subordinates, to neither party were it possible that these communities
of interest (sensible interest will relate to that of the public it
might well be termed might well be called) should being for a moment
be a secret.[+] The consequence was obvious followed of course and unavoidable:
they played into one another's hands. Thus hapless under the existing system / in such a state of things is the conduct
of the miserable suitor: enemies natural enemies are all he has to deal with,
all on whom his lot depends: friends—natural friends he has
none. Not less decidedly nor under the existing system less irremediably
nor is the interest of these his assistants his troops his
guardians in whose hand his fate reposes, than that of this
adversary in the suit, against the adverse interest of an adversary
so called he is upon his guard, and to a certain degree lies
in his professed assistants or real assistants and a support
against the adverse interest of these his professed guardians
and supporters he has no support.

[+] The more the Judge
and their creatures gave, the
more the assistants of the
parties gave: the more the
assistants of the parties
gave the more the Judges
and their creatures gave
the more all these diffuse
gave the more
the parties lose.



Identifier: | JB/011/058/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 11.

Date_1

1829-08-03

Marginal Summary Numbering

20

Box

011

Main Headings

law amendment

Folio number

058

Info in main headings field

reformists reviewed

Image

001

Titles

Category

text sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

e9

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

Marginals

Paper Producer

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

ID Number

3755

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