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<head>1831 Oct 29 <gap/> Increment Discarded<lb/>Observations on Bankruptcy Bill</head><p><head>Disinterestedness 2<hi rend="superscript">d</hi><lb/>Introduction</head>1.<lb/>As to disinterestedness a<lb/>few more words.<lb/>A question already<lb/>discussed was to merits and<lb/>demerits of the Bill: but<lb/>another is &#x2014; as to the<lb/><del>severity</del> <add>sincerity</add> of the author's<lb/>advocacy of Law<lb/>Reform &#x2014; i.e. a system<lb/>for putting an end<lb/>to denial of justice<lb/>etc.</p><p>2.<lb/>To ensure his contributing<lb/>to it necessary<lb/>are<lb/>1. adequate inclination<lb/>2. d<hi rend="superscript">o</hi> ability.</p><p>3.<lb/>Neither has J.B. been<lb/>able to discover in<lb/>him, as above.</p><p>4.<lb/>Inclination would be<lb/><hi rend="underline">tolled</hi> by interestedness:</p><p>5.<lb/>Therefore disinterestedness<lb/>is so strenuously asserted<lb/>and inculcated.</p><p>6.<lb/>Believe him, never<lb/>would butter melt in<lb/>his mouth.</p><p>7.<lb/>From a fee as from a<lb/>hot coal his hand<lb/>would shrink.</p><p>8.<lb/>In this boast I see thrown<lb/>down a gauntlet &#x2014; I here<lb/>take it up.</p><p>9.<lb/>Averment &#x2014; By this change<lb/>I shall not gain money<lb/>or money's worth. Counter<lb/>averment &#x2014; you would<lb/>gain considerably &#x2014; thus<lb/>is issue joined.</p><pb/><head>Disinterestedness 2<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></head>or 1.<lb/>Greater than this<lb/>appeared is Brougham's<lb/>real emolument &#x2014;<lb/>Causes of increase,<lb/>these<p>or 2<lb/>1. Salaries not <lb/>unliquidated and<lb/>uncertain &#x2014; but<lb/>liquidated and certain.</p>-----<p>or 3<lb/>Sums <hi rend="underline">large</hi>, which sell<lb/>for more than in<lb/>proportion compared<lb/>with <hi rend="underline">small</hi> sums.</p><p>or 4.<lb/>Examples &#x2014;<lb/>1. Church Livings<lb/>2. Army Commissions</p><p>or 5<lb/>1. Church livings &#x2014;<lb/>Advowson of a living<lb/>with income less<lb/>per annum than<lb/>that of a Curacy<lb/>is unsaleable: with<pb/>high income for 14<lb/>years purchase,<lb/>undislocability sole<lb/>advantage <del>over</del> of<lb/>Living over Curacy.</p><p>or 6<lb/>Reason &#x2014; £80 affords<lb/>bare necessaries: all<lb/>above, luxuries &#x2014;<lb/>higher the amount,<lb/>smaller the number<lb/>of price-reducing<lb/>competitors.</p><p>or 7<lb/>2. Army Commissions.<lb/>Here, while Ensign's<lb/>£96.16.3 fetches no<lb/>more than £450,<lb/>Lieutenant Colonel's<lb/>no more than £310,<lb/>5<hi rend="superscript">s</hi> fetches £4500.</p><!-- Beginning with "or 3" the contents of this column have been stricken. --><pb/><head>Disinterestedness 2<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></head><lb/>or 8.<lb/>Judiciary and<lb/>military service eing<lb/>assumed equally<lb/>desirable, the relative<lb/>superiority of the<lb/>patronage gained may<lb/>be mathematically<lb/>exhibited, thus<p>or 9<lb/>Price fetched for the<lb/>£95.5.0.£450 or<lb/>4 1/2 years purchase.</p><p>or 10<lb/>Whereas for the £310.<lb/>5.0 price fetched<lb/>£4500 or 13 1/3 years<lb/>purchase.</p><p>or 11.<lb/>Compare now the<lb/>salaries of the patronage<lb/>given up by Lord B.<lb/>with the salaries of<lb/>the patronage he<lb/>gives himself.</p><p>or 12.<lb/>Salary of the highest &#x2014;<lb/>the Chief Judge, £2000.</p><p>or 13.<lb/>Assuming as above<lb/>10 years purchase as<lb/>the value of the<lb/>patronage we have for<lb/>the increased value<lb/>£20,000.</p><p>or 14.<lb/>Allowance must be<lb/>made in both cases<lb/>for the difference<lb/>between the perpetuity<lb/>and the 8 years'<lb/>possession.</p><p>or 15<lb/>True in the military<lb/>service is there increase<lb/>of power in addition to<lb/>increase od emolument &#x2014;<lb/>but not less<lb/>true is it that the<lb/>military are exposed<lb/>to dangers and sufferings<lb/>to which the<lb/>Judiciary are not.</p><pb/><head>Disinterestedness 2<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></head><p>10.<lb/>In the calculation<lb/>a friend of mine<lb/>offered me the assistance<lb/>of an appropriately<lb/>learned friend of his:<lb/>of their information<lb/>he result follows.<lb/><gap/> In Column II.</p>
<head>1831 Oct 29 <gap/> Increment Discarded<lb/>Observations on Bankruptcy Bill</head><p><head>Disinterestedness 2<hi rend="superscript">d</hi><lb/>Introduction</head>1.<lb/>As to disinterestedness a<lb/>few more words.<lb/>A question already<lb/>discussed was to merits and<lb/>demerits of the Bill: but<lb/>another is &#x2014; as to the<lb/><del>severity</del> <add>sincerity</add> of the author's<lb/>advocacy of Law<lb/>Reform &#x2014; i.e. a system<lb/>for putting an end<lb/>to denial of justice<lb/>etc.</p><p>2.<lb/>To ensure his contributing<lb/>to it necessary<lb/>are<lb/>1. adequate inclination<lb/>2. d<hi rend="superscript">o</hi> ability.</p><p>3.<lb/>Neither has J.B. been<lb/>able to discover in<lb/>him, as above.</p><p>4.<lb/>Inclination would be<lb/><hi rend="underline">tolled</hi> by interestedness:</p><p>5.<lb/>Therefore disinterestedness<lb/>is so strenuously asserted<lb/>and inculcated.</p><p>6.<lb/>Believe him, never<lb/>would butter melt in<lb/>his mouth.</p><p>7.<lb/>From a fee as from a<lb/>hot coal his hand<lb/>would shrink.</p><p>8.<lb/>In this boast I see thrown<lb/>down a gauntlet &#x2014; I here<lb/>take it up.</p><p>9.<lb/>Averment &#x2014; By this change<lb/>I shall not gain money<lb/>or money's worth. Counter<lb/>averment &#x2014; you would<lb/>gain considerably &#x2014; thus<lb/>is issue joined.</p><pb/><head>Disinterestedness 2<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></head>or 1.<lb/>Greater than this<lb/>appeared is Brougham's<lb/>real emolument &#x2014;<lb/>Causes of increase,<lb/>these<p>or 2<lb/>1. Salaries not <lb/>unliquidated and<lb/>uncertain &#x2014; but<lb/>liquidated and certain.</p>-----<p>or 3<lb/>Sums <hi rend="underline">large</hi>, which sell<lb/>for more than in<lb/>proportion compared<lb/>with <hi rend="underline">small</hi> sums.</p><p>or 4.<lb/>Examples &#x2014;<lb/>1. Church Livings<lb/>2. Army Commissions</p><p>or 5<lb/>1. Church livings &#x2014;<lb/>Advowson of a living<lb/>with income less<lb/>per annum than<lb/>that of a Curacy<lb/>is unsaleable: with<lb/>high income for 14<lb/>years purchase,<lb/>undislocability sole<lb/>advantage <del>over</del> of<lb/>Living over Curacy.</p><p>or 6<lb/>Reason &#x2014; £80 affords<lb/>bare necessaries: all<lb/>above, luxuries &#x2014;<lb/>higher the amount,<lb/>smaller the number<lb/>of price-reducing<lb/>competitors.</p><p>or 7<lb/>2. Army Commissions.<lb/>Here, while Ensign's<lb/>£96.16.3 fetches no<lb/>more than £450,<lb/>Lieutenant Colonel's<lb/>no more than £310,<lb/>5<hi rend="superscript">s</hi> fetches £4500.</p><!-- Beginning with "or 3" the contents of this column have been stricken. --><pb/><head>Disinterestedness 2<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></head><lb/>or 8.<lb/>Judiciary and<lb/>military service eing<lb/>assumed equally<lb/>desirable, the relative<lb/>superiority of the<lb/>patronage gained may<lb/>be mathematically<lb/>exhibited, thus<p>or 9<lb/>Price fetched for the<lb/>£95.5.0.£450 or<lb/>4 1/2 years purchase.</p><p>or 10<lb/>Whereas for the £310.<lb/>5.0 price fetched<lb/>£4500 or 13 1/3 years<lb/>purchase.</p><p>or 11.<lb/>Compare now the<lb/>salaries of the patronage<lb/>given up by Lord B.<lb/>with the salaries of<lb/>the patronage he<lb/>gives himself.</p><p>or 12.<lb/>Salary of the highest &#x2014;<lb/>the Chief Judge, £2000.</p><p>or 13.<lb/>Assuming as above<lb/>10 years purchase as<lb/>the value of the<lb/>patronage we have for<lb/>the increased value<lb/>£20,000.</p><p>or 14.<lb/>Allowance must be<lb/>made in both cases<lb/>for the difference<lb/>between the perpetuity<lb/>and the 8 years'<lb/>possession.</p><p>or 15<lb/>True in the military<lb/>service is there increase<lb/>of power in addition to<lb/>increase od emolument &#x2014;<lb/>but not less<lb/>true is it that the<lb/>military are exposed<lb/>to dangers and sufferings<lb/>to which the<lb/>Judiciary are not.</p><pb/><head>Disinterestedness 2<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></head><p>10.<lb/>In the calculation<lb/>a friend of mine<lb/>offered me the assistance<lb/>of an appropriately<lb/>learned friend of his:<lb/>of their information<lb/>he result follows.<lb/><gap/> In Column II.</p>





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1831 Oct 29 Increment Discarded
Observations on Bankruptcy Bill

Disinterestedness 2d
Introduction
1.
As to disinterestedness a
few more words.
A question already
discussed was to merits and
demerits of the Bill: but
another is — as to the
severity sincerity of the author's
advocacy of Law
Reform — i.e. a system
for putting an end
to denial of justice
etc.

2.
To ensure his contributing
to it necessary
are
1. adequate inclination
2. do ability.

3.
Neither has J.B. been
able to discover in
him, as above.

4.
Inclination would be
tolled by interestedness:

5.
Therefore disinterestedness
is so strenuously asserted
and inculcated.

6.
Believe him, never
would butter melt in
his mouth.

7.
From a fee as from a
hot coal his hand
would shrink.

8.
In this boast I see thrown
down a gauntlet — I here
take it up.

9.
Averment — By this change
I shall not gain money
or money's worth. Counter
averment — you would
gain considerably — thus
is issue joined.


---page break---
Disinterestedness 2oor 1.
Greater than this
appeared is Brougham's
real emolument —
Causes of increase,
these

or 2
1. Salaries not
unliquidated and
uncertain — but
liquidated and certain.

-----

or 3
Sums large, which sell
for more than in
proportion compared
with small sums.

or 4.
Examples —
1. Church Livings
2. Army Commissions

or 5
1. Church livings —
Advowson of a living
with income less
per annum than
that of a Curacy
is unsaleable: with
high income for 14
years purchase,
undislocability sole
advantage over of
Living over Curacy.

or 6
Reason — £80 affords
bare necessaries: all
above, luxuries —
higher the amount,
smaller the number
of price-reducing
competitors.

or 7
2. Army Commissions.
Here, while Ensign's
£96.16.3 fetches no
more than £450,
Lieutenant Colonel's
no more than £310,
5s fetches £4500.


---page break---
Disinterestedness 2o
or 8.
Judiciary and
military service eing
assumed equally
desirable, the relative
superiority of the
patronage gained may
be mathematically
exhibited, thus

or 9
Price fetched for the
£95.5.0.£450 or
4 1/2 years purchase.

or 10
Whereas for the £310.
5.0 price fetched
£4500 or 13 1/3 years
purchase.

or 11.
Compare now the
salaries of the patronage
given up by Lord B.
with the salaries of
the patronage he
gives himself.

or 12.
Salary of the highest —
the Chief Judge, £2000.

or 13.
Assuming as above
10 years purchase as
the value of the
patronage we have for
the increased value
£20,000.

or 14.
Allowance must be
made in both cases
for the difference
between the perpetuity
and the 8 years'
possession.

or 15
True in the military
service is there increase
of power in addition to
increase od emolument —
but not less
true is it that the
military are exposed
to dangers and sufferings
to which the
Judiciary are not.


---page break---
Disinterestedness 2o

10.
In the calculation
a friend of mine
offered me the assistance
of an appropriately
learned friend of his:
of their information
he result follows.
In Column II.




Identifier: | JB/004/385/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 4.

Date_1

1831-10-29

Marginal Summary Numbering

1-9. or 1 - or 15, 10

Box

004

Main Headings

lord brougham displayed

Folio number

385

Info in main headings field

observations on bankruptcy bill

Image

001

Titles

disinterestedness 2o / introduction

Category

marginal summary sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

Penner

george bentham

Watermarks

j whatman turkey mill 1829

Marginals

Paper Producer

jonathan blenman

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

1829

Notes public

[[notes_public::"opulential increment - discarded" [note in bentham's hand]]]

ID Number

2306

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