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1819 Nov. 30
Radicalism not

II. Experience</note>
5 II. Ireland

11 or 3
Not to speak of democracy
when from
democratical ascendency
none of information
injury to
prosperity, tranquillity
or morality, see what
grounds their
saying so affords for
believing that they think
so

In Ireland for 4 years in undemocratic
. In for 40 years together acted
,

After No to speak of pure democracy what has here been seen, when men having any
tolerable insight into the nature of government in general and the
state of the country in particular are observed to say
that from democratic ascendency any detriment injury to social
the happiness of the prosperity, the tranquillity or the morality of the
people would be more likely to insure them from the contrivance
of the government in its present state, — that the impractical reader
may judge whether their saying so affords any grounds for believing
that they think so

12 or 4
So whether Grattan<lb/.could think as he
spoke. Grattan sitting<lb/.always for one of
Charlemonts two seats
acted consequently in
concert with him on
putting down radicalism<lb/. in Ireland

On the of 1783
Charlemont by adjournment<lb/.virtually defeated
the Convention with
which the prosperity
tranquillity and morality<lb/.of Ireland
expired.

Mr Grattan was the confidential friend of the Ld Earl of
Charlemont: it was by that patron that he had been brought
into Parliament: Lord Charlemont in of the borough
of that name had two seats, and Mr Grattan sat in
one of them. After the his first which was on
17 he ,/del> even after their joint , and
<gap/ change of Parliament continued to do so as of
course.

13 or 5
On the of
178 . Grattan spoke
against radicalism a
set speech: as per
Plowden from Irish<lb/.parliamentary debates.

The day While the Convention chosen by universal suffrage sat, the paramount power
of the country was in the hands of the universal suffragists
the Irish radicalists of that time. On the of
it was that Lord Charlemont asthe President of that body procured the adjournment under
the notion of its being but temporary this adjournment
from which the expiration of democratic ascendency
with the prosperity, tranquillity and morality which
had been the never disputed accompaniments of it, expired.

On the of 17 it was that Mr Grattan
stood up and delivered against that
and universally known instrument if every thing that was <gap> allow
that was in and government and morality a set speech,
of which Mr Hardy's loss of Charlemonts [+] gave me a copy from <note>[+] Plowdens History of Ireland
Parliamentary
Debates.

Identifier: | JB/137/397/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.
Date_1	1819-11-30	Marginal Summary Numbering	11 or 3 - 13 or 5
Box	137	Main Headings	radicalism not dangerous
Folio number	397	Info in main headings field	radicalism not
Image	001	Titles
Category	text sheet	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering	e5
Penner	jeremy bentham	Watermarks	[[watermarks::[prince of wales feathers] i&m 1818]]
Marginals	jeremy bentham	Paper Producer	arthur wellesley, duke of wellington
Corrections		Paper Produced in Year	1818
Notes public		ID Number	47114
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