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1819 Nov. 29 +
Radicalism not

A 40
II. Experience
(1) 1 II. Ireland

II. Ireland

Look now to Ireland. The propositions [to be proved]
are these.

1
II. Ireland Probenda
1. For years power paramount
in hands of
armed Volunteers under
command and — not of
King &c but leaders
chosen by themselves
No 42,000: Regulars under
King's command 5,000

1 For a number not between 4 and 5 of years together the power of the country was
in the hands of a set of voluntarily associated bodies of men
armed and trained not under the command of the Monarch or his enlisted
servants: their number 42,000 at the time when all
the troops under the command of the Monarch and his servants
did not exceed 5,000 In an unlimited proportion these men were
in the condition of universal suffrage men: of men
whose fund of subsistence was no other than the wages of
labour.

2
2. They were
a fair sample of
universal suffragists

32. They The men wh under whose command they
were trained and acted were men of their own choice.

3. Leaders chosen by privates

4. Whose leaders thus
chosen were men of
the highest rank
and power — Leinster
the sole Duke
Charlemont the Lord
highest in repute.
So, per biographer
Hardy.

4 3 These men leaders of their own choice, were for
the most part men of the highest degree in the
country for rank and opulence. Amongst them
were the late Duke of Leinster: the man of
at the very head of the rank of hereditary rank and power
and the late Earl of Charlemont, the man so much decidedly at the
head of his countrymen in public general estimation, that in
that character he stands exhibited by a Member of
the Irish Parliament — the historian of his life

5. In all that time no saying was by any of them
armed

5 Over none of the privates
had their leaders
any power of punishment

5 4. These leaders had not, any of them, over the privates
under their command, who they commanded any power of punishment whatsoever

6. This democratic ascendency

5* This period may be styled the period of democratic ascendency.

67 In all 3 this its point
no evil to pursue in
property.

6. In all that time, no injury was, by any one of those
bodies of men done or attempted to be done, to persons, either to any person
or to property in any shape.

8. Prosperity, tranquillity,
morality never so much
before — or since.

7. During that time, [+] this whole period of democratic ascendency the whole country was in respect of prosperity
in general, and tranquillity in particular, as also in respect
of morality in general, in a sate far exceeding any thing it
had
ever experienced under
Monarchical Aristocratical
ascendency.

Identifier: | JB/137/401/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.
Date_1	1819-11-29	Marginal Summary Numbering	1-3
Box	137	Main Headings	radicalism not dangerous
Folio number	401	Info in main headings field	radicalism not
Image	001	Titles	ii ireland
Category	text sheet	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering	c1 / d40 / e1
Penner	jeremy bentham	Watermarks	[[watermarks::[prince of wales feathers] i&m 1818]]
Marginals	jeremy bentham	Paper Producer	arthur wellesley, duke of wellington
Corrections		Paper Produced in Year	1818
Notes public		ID Number	47118
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