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<head>1819 <sic>Dec<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></sic> 7<lb/>Radicalism not dangerous</head> <!-- marginal notes in pencil --> <p>Note (c) 3 <note>Notes</note><lb/>III Experience<lb/>II Ireland</note><lb/>3</p> <!-- indistinct marginal notes in pencil which have been crossed out --> <p><del>XI. The imputed change impossible</del></p> <!-- next two paragraphs crossed though in ink --> <p>What they say is &#x2014; that these public men with whom<lb/>I agree do not wish for reform, and that we do wish for<lb/>an <del><gap/></del> subversion of the right of property.</p> <p>What I in my defence say is that we <add>on our part</add> do wish<lb/>for reform and we do not wish for subversion <del.<gap/>,/del> nor<lb/>for any invasion of the rights of property and<lb/><del>think they</del> <add>as to them</add> they do not believe as to have any such<lb/> work as that which they do attribute to us and that<lb/>accordingly it is not for any such purpose as the <gap/><lb/>the subversion of property that they are destroying <add>subverting</add> our<lb/>liberties and our security, but for the purpose of preventing<lb/>reform from taking place, and so preserving against<lb/>all remedy that system of abuse by which they profit<lb/><gap/> that system of tyranny <add>oppression and depredation</add> which they are excusing<lb/><gap/> <gap/></p> <!-- end of crossed out section.  Line in ink across the page --> <!-- in pencil --><p><note>II. Cause of Democratic<lb/.ascendency<lb/>Governments <gap/></note></p> <p>(c): Hardy p.194 <sic>A<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></sic> 1778.  The Volunteer army of Ireland is<lb/>"indebted for its formation to a letter of Sir Richard Herons, then<lb/>"managing secretary) . . .  Belfast . . . . applied to Government for<lb/>"protection against the common enemy, who then manacled it with<lb/>"peculiar danger.  Sir Richard Heron's answer was plain and candid.<lb/>"Government could afford it none. . .  Government was as<lb/>"to national defence abdicated and the people left to take car of<lb/>"themselves.  But if thus abandoned, their spirit soon supplied the defects<lb/>"and imbecility of administration . .  p.197.  Government<lb/>"stood astounded.  With unavailing regret it now beheld the effects<lb/>"of its own immediate work indeed; but to look more retrospectively,<lb/>"the work of its predecessors and of England.  To disunite or <!-- blank space --> <gap/><lb/>"the volunteers was beyond their power, though the several object of<lb/>"their wishes.  It was proposed to some of their officers to get commissions<lb/>"from the Crown, or take them out for forms sake merely &#x2014; p. 196<lb/>"At that very moment was a noble English army captive in America.  So<lb/>"strongly forgetful are some intemperate politicians of the most alarming<lb/>"events, even of yesterday, and so unable or so resolutely determined<lb/>"are they to draw no beneficial inference from them whatever.  The<lb/>"volunteers were at last no longer teased nor tormented.  Those who were<lb/>"most attached to administration fell into their rank as well as its<lb/>"opponents."</p> <!-- separate slip of paper --> <!-- in pencil --> <p> (C 1)</p> <p>Hardy p. <del>239</del. <add>238</add> <sic>A<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></sic> 1782. "Towards the end of the <unclear>summer</unclear> ... <add>p.239</add> there<lb/>"now remained but <del>2</del> 3000 for the entire defence of the kingdom.<lb/>"Altogether there were not, allowing for the deficiencies of regiments<lb/>"and common casualties, regulars sufficient to do garrison<lb/>"duty."</p>






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1819 Decr 7
Radicalism not dangerous

Note (c) 3 Notes
III Experience
II Ireland</note>
3

XI. The imputed change impossible

What they say is — that these public men with whom
I agree do not wish for reform, and that we do wish for
an subversion of the right of property.

What I in my defence say is that we on our part do wish
for reform and we do not wish for subversion <del.,/del> nor
for any invasion of the rights of property and
think they as to them they do not believe as to have any such
work as that which they do attribute to us and that
accordingly it is not for any such purpose as the
the subversion of property that they are destroying subverting our
liberties and our security, but for the purpose of preventing
reform from taking place, and so preserving against
all remedy that system of abuse by which they profit
that system of tyranny oppression and depredation which they are excusing

II. Cause of Democratic<lb/.ascendency
Governments

(c): Hardy p.194 Ao 1778. The Volunteer army of Ireland is
"indebted for its formation to a letter of Sir Richard Herons, then
"managing secretary) . . . Belfast . . . . applied to Government for
"protection against the common enemy, who then manacled it with
"peculiar danger. Sir Richard Heron's answer was plain and candid.
"Government could afford it none. . . Government was as
"to national defence abdicated and the people left to take car of
"themselves. But if thus abandoned, their spirit soon supplied the defects
"and imbecility of administration . . p.197. Government
"stood astounded. With unavailing regret it now beheld the effects
"of its own immediate work indeed; but to look more retrospectively,
"the work of its predecessors and of England. To disunite or
"the volunteers was beyond their power, though the several object of
"their wishes. It was proposed to some of their officers to get commissions
"from the Crown, or take them out for forms sake merely — p. 196
"At that very moment was a noble English army captive in America. So
"strongly forgetful are some intemperate politicians of the most alarming
"events, even of yesterday, and so unable or so resolutely determined
"are they to draw no beneficial inference from them whatever. The
"volunteers were at last no longer teased nor tormented. Those who were
"most attached to administration fell into their rank as well as its
"opponents."

(C 1)

Hardy p. 239</del. 238 Ao 1782. "Towards the end of the summer ... p.239 there
"now remained but 2
3000 for the entire defence of the kingdom.
"Altogether there were not, allowing for the deficiencies of regiments
"and common casualties, regulars sufficient to do garrison
"duty."




Identifier: | JB/137/407/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.

Date_1

1819-12-07

Marginal Summary Numbering

Box

137

Main Headings

radicalism not dangerous

Folio number

407

Info in main headings field

radicalism not dangerous

Image

001

Titles

note (c)

Category

collectanea

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

d3 / e3

Penner

jeremy bentham; john flowerdew colls

Watermarks

[[watermarks::[partial prince of wales feathers]]]

Marginals

Paper Producer

arthur wellesley, duke of wellington

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

ID Number

47124

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