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<head>17 <sic>Apr.</sic> 1811<lb/><sic>Panopt.</sic> Proposed Heads of Report for the Committee</head> <!-- this page is organised in four columns.  Columns one and two, and most of column three have been crossed through in ink --> <p>For Country Convicts<lb/>Options 3.<lb/>1.  Panopticon in London<lb/>2.  Panopticons in Country<lb/>3.  Jails in the Country<lb/>as at present in the close<lb/>mode on a small scale</p><p>Common advantage<lb/>of Panopticon whether<lb/>
<head>17 <sic>Apr.</sic> 1811<lb/><sic>Panopt.</sic> Proposed Heads of Report for the Committee</head> <!-- this page is organised in four columns.  Columns one and two, and most of column three have been crossed through in ink --> <p>For Country Convicts<lb/>Options 3.<lb/>1.  Panopticon in London<lb/>2.  Panopticons in Country<lb/>3.  Jails in the Country<lb/>as at present in the close<lb/>mode on a small scale</p> <p>Common advantage<lb/>of Panopticon whether<lb/>in Town or County<lb/>1.  Management better<lb/>in <unclear>all</unclear> respects<lb/>2. <sic>Expence</sic> less</p> <p>Reasons for preferring<lb/>Town to Country, &#x2014; public<lb/>better.</p> <p>Objections</p> <p>1. Danger of female escape<lb/><sic>encreased</sic><lb/>2.  Accumulation after<lb/> discharge<lb/>3.  <sic>Expence</sic> of conveyance.<lb/>4.  Fund charged not<lb/>the proper one</p> <p>Answers to these<lb/>several objections</p> <p>Inconvenience of or<lb/>Objections to the close<lb/>mode upon a small<lb/>
in Town or County<lb/>1.  Management better<lb/>
in <unclear>all</unclear> respect<lb/>2. <sic>Expence</sic> less</p> <p>Reasons for preferring<lb/>Town to Country, &#x2014; public<lb/><sic><unclear>burthen</unclear></sic>.</p>
<p>Objections</p> <p>1. danger of female escape<lb/><sic>encreased</sic><lb/>2.  Accumulation after<lb/> discharge<lb/>3.  <sic>Expence</sic> of conveyance.<lb/>4.  Fund charged not<lb/>the proper one</p> <p>Answers to these<lb/>several objections</p> <p>Inconvenience of or<lb/>
Objections to the close<lb/>mode upon a small<lb/>
scale.<lb/>1.  Inaptitude, as above<lb/>2.  Uncertainty of Execution.</p> <pb/><!-- start of second column --><p>Heads for a First Report &#x2014;<lb/>confined to<lb/>Panopticon</p> <p>1.  Enquiry into the<lb/>causes of the delay<lb/>waived.</p>
scale.<lb/>1.  Inaptitude, as above<lb/>2.  Uncertainty of Execution.</p> <pb/><!-- start of second column --><p>Heads for a First Report &#x2014;<lb/>confined to<lb/>Panopticon</p> <p>1.  Enquiry into the<lb/>causes of the delay<lb/>waived.</p>
<p>2.  Promptness in future<lb/>pressed.  Reasons</p> <p>3 1. Pressure in regard<lb/>to female convicts</p><p>4 2. Danger of losing<lb/>by death the services of<lb/>J.B. whose mastery<lb/>of the subject is evidenced<lb/>by his books<lb/>
<p>2.  Promptness in future<lb/>pressed.  Reasons</p> <p>3. 1. Pressure in regard<lb/>to female convicts</p><p>4. 2. Danger of losing<lb/>by death the services of<lb/>J.B. whose mastery<lb/>of the subject is evidenced<lb/>by his books<lb/>
on the subject.</p> <p>5. 3. Recommendation given<lb/>by Finance Committee<lb/>and reproach in Government<lb/>in case of ulterior<lb/>delay.</p> <p>6. 4. Extensibility of the<lb/>
on the subject.</p> <p>5. 3. Recommendation given<lb/>by Finance Committee<lb/>and reproach in Government<lb/>in case of ulterior<lb/>delay.</p> <p>6. 4. Extensibility of the<lb/>
Panopticon principles,<lb/>if approved by experience.</p><p>7.  Irretrievable injury<lb/>to J.B. and his brother<lb/>by the extinction of<lb/>their manufacturing<lb/>concern, the loss of<lb/>the money spent upon<lb/>it, as per Finance Committee<lb/>Report and the<lb/><unclear>delay</unclear> opposed to the<lb/>promised succedaneum<lb/>Recommendation that<lb/>the family be considered<lb/>in the terms? <foreign>Quere</foreign><lb/>whether this to be ventured<lb/>
Panopticon principles,<lb/>if approved by experience.</p><p>7.  Irretrievable injury<lb/>to J.B. and his brother<lb/>by the extinction of<lb/>their manufacturing<lb/>concern, the loss of<lb/>the money spent upon<lb/>it, as per Finance Committee<lb/>Report and the<lb/><unclear>delay</unclear> opposed to the<lb/>promised succedaneum<lb/>Recommendation that<lb/>the family be considered<lb/>in the terms? <foreign>Quere</foreign><lb/>whether this to be ventured<lb/>
on.</p> <p>20 years since the proposal<lb/>
on.</p> <p>20 years since the proposal<lb/>was given in:  18 since it<lb/>was accepted, and J.B.<lb/>ordered to take arrangement.</p> <p>The 7 number of years<lb/>constituting the then estimated<lb/>value of J.B. &amp; S.B. <gap/> already <gap/> <hi rend="superscript">†</hi><lb/>Three years before the <gap/> and<lb/>an <gap/>.  Many before<lb/>it can be expected to yield profit<lb/><note>2 <hi rend="superscript">†</hi> See 28 Rep. p.81 <gap/> <sic>Calculat</sic></note></p> <pb/> <!-- start of third column --><p>8.  Recommendation to<lb/><sic>compleat</sic> the purchase<lb/>of Tothill Fields &amp;c<lb/>according to Notice<lb/>given by Treasury<lb/> <sic>A<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></sic> 1799.</p> <p><add>This on the ground not<lb/>only of Contract but of the subsidiary<lb/>establishment</add> <hi rend="superscript">⊞</hi> <note><hi rend="superscript">⊞</hi> the mention of which<lb/>was forgotten in J.B.s<lb/>first examination.</note></p> <p>9 &#x2014; and to give to<lb/>the 1<hi rend="superscript">st</hi> Panopticon the<lb/>size necessary for the<lb/>2000 Prisoners being<lb/>the <sic>N<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></sic> determined upon<lb/>by Treasury Letter<lb/>25 March 1800: of<lb/>which size the commitment<lb/> of any<lb/><del>more</del> beyond the Contract<lb/>number will not<lb/>be a necessary consequence.</p> <!-- end of crossed out text --> <p>&#9758; 21 Apr. 1811.  Written<lb/>in Pencil on the first page<lb/>of <sic>Lett.</sic> III, in Country Convict<lb/>when sent to Abercromby.</p> <p>Proposed subject of<lb/>consideration for Tuesday<lb/>morning 22 <sic>Apr.</sic> 1811.<lb/>To be considered in<lb/>relation to each article &#x2014;<lb/>1.  Whether proper to<lb/>be presented <add>from any quarter</add> to the<lb/>Committee.<lb/>2.  From what quarter<lb/>it would come with<lb/>most propriety and<lb/><del>effect</del> <add>prospect of advantage</add> viz from<lb/>the Witness, or from a<lb/> Member of the Committee?</p> <pb/><!-- start of fourth column --> <p>Memoranda for<lb/>A. &amp; B.</p> <p>To inquire out the<lb/>state of the <del>Vauxhall<lb/>Bridge</del> plan proceeding<lb/>in the Vauxhall bridge<lb/>Bill;  and to <del>suffer</del><lb/>not to suffer it to pass<lb/>except on the condition<lb/>of the turning the road<lb/>so as to prevent its cutting<lb/>through the ground<lb/>intended for Panopticon,<lb/>including the ground<lb/>that was to have been<lb/>purchased or within<lb/>that already purchased.</p> <p>2.  To take measures<lb/>for the bringing a<lb/>Bill for granting to<lb/> convicts and their<lb/>Panopticon employers<lb/>the same dispensation<lb/>from the Statute of<lb/>Apprenticeship as<lb/>
was given in:  18 since it<lb/>was accepted, and J.B.<lb/>
has been granted<lb/>to Soldiers, and (or<lb/>believed) to <unclear>Sailors</unclear>.</p> <p><del>Both terms were then<lb/>computed at no more<lb/>than 12/10 years perhaps<lb/>20 28 Report <gap/> calculation<lb/> p.81.</del></p> <p>Whether A. or B.<lb/>to make the observation<lb/>that putting the Panopticon<lb/>all in one place<lb/>would not necessitate<lb/>putting them under one<lb/>Manager.</p> <p>When the first Manager<lb/>terms were at<lb/>an end, or before if<lb/>necessary, they might<lb/>be put under different<lb/>hands for the <gap/> of<lb/>emulation and double<lb/>chance of improvement.</p>
ordered to take arrangement.</p> <p>The 7 number of years<lb/>
constituting the then estimated<lb/><gap/> of J.B. &amp; S.B. <gap/> already <gap/> <hi rend="superscript">†</hi><lb/>Three years before the <gap/> and<lb/>an <gap/>.  Many before<lb/>
it can be expected to yield profit<lb/><note>2 <hi rend="superscript">†</hi> See 28 Rep. p.81 <gap/> <sic>Calculat</sic></p> <pb/> <!-- start of third column --><p>8.  Recommendation to<lb/><sic>compleat</sic> the purchase<lb/>of Tothill Fields &amp;c<lb/>according to Notice<lb/>given by Treasury<lb/> <sic>A<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></sic> 1799.</p> <p><add>This on the ground not<lb/>only of Contract but of the subsidiary<lb/>
establishment</add> <hi rend="superscript">⊞</hi> <note><hi rend="superscript">⊞</hi> the mention of which<lb/>was forgotten in J.B.s<lb/>first examination.</note></p> <p>9 and to give to<lb/>the 1<hi rend="superscript">st</hi> Panopticon the<lb/>size necessary for the<lb/>2000 Prisoners being<lb/>
the <sic>N<hi rend="superscript">o</hi></sic> determined upon<lb/>by Treasury Letter<lb/>25 March 1800: of<lb/>which size the commitment<lb/> of any<lb/><del>more</del> beyond the Contract<lb/>number will not<lb/>be a necessary consequence.</p> <!-- end of crossed out text --> <p>&#9758; 21 Apr. 1811.  Written<lb/>in Pencil on the first page<lb/>of <sic>Lett.</sic> III, a Country Convict<lb/>when sent to Abercromby.</p><p>Proposed subject of<lb/>consideration for Tuesday<lb/>
morning 22 <sic>Apr.</sic> 1811.<lb/>To be considered in<lb/>
relation to each article &#x2014;<lb/>1.  Whether proper to<lb/>be presented <add>from any quarter</add> to the<lb/>
Committee.<lb/>2.  From what quarter<lb/>it would come with<lb/>most propriety and<lb/><del>effect</del> <add>prospect of advantage</add> viz from<lb/>the Witness, or from a<lb/> Member of the Committee?</p> <pb/><!-- start of fourth column --> <p>Memoranda for<lb/>A. &amp; B.</p> <p>To inquire on the<lb/>state of the <del>Vauxhall<lb/>Bridge</del> plan <gap/>
on the Vauxhall bridge<lb/>Bill;  and to <del>suffer</del><lb/>
not to suffer it to pass<lb/>except on the condition<lb/>
of the turning the road<lb/>so as to prevent its cutting<lb/>
through the ground<lb/>intended for Panopticon,<lb/>including the ground<lb/>that was to have been<lb/>purchased or within<lb/>the already purchased.</p> <p>2.  To take measures<lb/>for the bringing a<lb/>Bill for granting to<lb/>
convicts and their<lb/>Panopticon employers<lb/>the same dispensation<lb/>from the Statute of<lb/>Apprenticeship as<lb/>
has been granted<lb/>to Soldiers, and (or<lb/>believed) to favour.</p> <p><del>Both terms were then<lb/>computed at no more<lb/>than 12/10 years perhaps<lb/>20 28 Report <gap/> calculation<lb/> p.81.</del></p> <p>Whether A. or B.<lb/>
to make the observation<lb/>that putting the Panopticon<lb/>all in one place<lb/>would not necessitate<lb/>putting them under one<lb/>Manager.</p> <p>When the first Manager<lb/>
claims even at<lb/>an end, or before if<lb/>necessary, they might<lb/>be put under different<lb/>hands for the <gap/> of<lb/>emulation and double<lb/>chance of improvement.</p>


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17 Apr. 1811
Panopt. Proposed Heads of Report for the Committee

For Country Convicts
Options 3.
1. Panopticon in London
2. Panopticons in Country
3. Jails in the Country
as at present in the close
mode on a small scale

Common advantage
of Panopticon whether
in Town or County
1. Management better
in all respects
2. Expence less

Reasons for preferring
Town to Country, — public
better.

Objections

1. Danger of female escape
encreased
2. Accumulation after
discharge
3. Expence of conveyance.
4. Fund charged not
the proper one

Answers to these
several objections

Inconvenience of or
Objections to the close
mode upon a small
scale.
1. Inaptitude, as above
2. Uncertainty of Execution.


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Heads for a First Report —
confined to
Panopticon

1. Enquiry into the
causes of the delay
waived.

2. Promptness in future
pressed. Reasons

3. 1. Pressure in regard
to female convicts

4. 2. Danger of losing
by death the services of
J.B. whose mastery
of the subject is evidenced
by his books
on the subject.

5. 3. Recommendation given
by Finance Committee
and reproach in Government
in case of ulterior
delay.

6. 4. Extensibility of the
Panopticon principles,
if approved by experience.

7. Irretrievable injury
to J.B. and his brother
by the extinction of
their manufacturing
concern, the loss of
the money spent upon
it, as per Finance Committee
Report and the
delay opposed to the
promised succedaneum
Recommendation that
the family be considered
in the terms? Quere
whether this to be ventured
on.

20 years since the proposal
was given in: 18 since it
was accepted, and J.B.
ordered to take arrangement.

The 7 number of years
constituting the then estimated
value of J.B. & S.B. already
Three years before the and
an . Many before
it can be expected to yield profit
2 See 28 Rep. p.81 Calculat


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8. Recommendation to
compleat the purchase
of Tothill Fields &c
according to Notice
given by Treasury
Ao 1799.

This on the ground not
only of Contract but of the subsidiary
establishment
the mention of which
was forgotten in J.B.s
first examination.

9 — and to give to
the 1st Panopticon the
size necessary for the
2000 Prisoners being
the No determined upon
by Treasury Letter
25 March 1800: of
which size the commitment
of any
more beyond the Contract
number will not
be a necessary consequence.

☞ 21 Apr. 1811. Written
in Pencil on the first page
of Lett. III, in Country Convict
when sent to Abercromby.

Proposed subject of
consideration for Tuesday
morning 22 Apr. 1811.
To be considered in
relation to each article —
1. Whether proper to
be presented from any quarter to the
Committee.
2. From what quarter
it would come with
most propriety and
effect prospect of advantage viz from
the Witness, or from a
Member of the Committee?


---page break---

Memoranda for
A. & B.

To inquire out the
state of the Vauxhall
Bridge
plan proceeding
in the Vauxhall bridge
Bill; and to suffer
not to suffer it to pass
except on the condition
of the turning the road
so as to prevent its cutting
through the ground
intended for Panopticon,
including the ground
that was to have been
purchased or within
that already purchased.

2. To take measures
for the bringing a
Bill for granting to
convicts and their
Panopticon employers
the same dispensation
from the Statute of
Apprenticeship as
has been granted
to Soldiers, and (or
believed) to Sailors.

Both terms were then
computed at no more
than 12/10 years perhaps
20 28 Report calculation
p.81.

Whether A. or B.
to make the observation
that putting the Panopticon
all in one place
would not necessitate
putting them under one
Manager.

When the first Manager
terms were at
an end, or before if
necessary, they might
be put under different
hands for the of
emulation and double
chance of improvement.



Identifier: | JB/117/225/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 117.

Date_1

1811-04-17

Marginal Summary Numbering

Box

117

Main Headings

panopticon

Folio number

225

Info in main headings field

panopt. proposed heads of report for the committee

Image

001

Titles

Category

rudiments sheet (brouillon)

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

d1

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

th 1806

Marginals

Paper Producer

andre morellet

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

1806

Notes public

ID Number

38842

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