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<head>1826 July 9<lb/>London Petition for Judicial Reform and against Eldon</head> <p>With this example | <head>1826 July 9<lb/>London Petition for Judicial Reform and against Eldon</head> <p>With this example<lb/>before us we should<lb/>not be surprized if<lb/>under the guidance of<lb/>the Code of laws which<lb/>the French people are<lb/>so happy in the possession<lb/>of Judges <add>in such adequate numbers</add> are content<lb/>to <gap/> <gap/> <gap/> been<lb/>for <del><gap/></del> a retribute<lb/>so indirect not to say<lb/><gap/>, they were <add>would be</add><lb/>if the experiment were<lb/>made <gap/> to bestow<lb/>the same <gap/><lb/>labour without pecuniary<lb/>recompense to any amount<lb/>in any shape.</p> <p>Were we even persuaded<lb/>of this, the example<lb/>of one say imposed<lb/>Judges serving<lb/>as such under the name <lb/>of Magistrates would<lb/>suffice to compel<lb/>such <gap/> from<lb/>the imputation of extravagance.</p> <p><del>We are <gap/> at the<lb/>same time <gap/> of the</del></p> <p>We are assured at the<lb/>same time and are prepared<lb/>to prove that<lb/>on the part of these French<lb/>Judges <add>Magistrates</add> the field of judicature<lb/>of judicial competency — is at the same<lb/>time much more extensive<lb/>than that of an<lb/><gap/> English<lb/>one.</p> <pb/> <!-- start of second column --> <p>We are aware on<lb/>the other hand of the inestimable<lb/>advantage of<lb/>having to act under a<lb/>Code of real law determined<lb/>in every word<lb/>of it instead of <add>in comparison with</add> a fictitious<lb/>Code or body of law<lb/>fictitious in the<lb/>most extensive part of<lb/>it purely fictitious the<lb/>Judge not having it in<lb/>his power to read aloud<lb/>as required at his hand<lb/>but left to conjecture<lb/>what after the <del><gap/></del><lb/>act is done by him<lb/>will be thought of the<lb/>propriety of it by he<lb/>knows not who.</p> <p>Steering his course in<lb/>the <gap/> man whose<lb/>lot is in his hands are <add>has been</add><lb/>reduced to stones thrown<lb/>on the surface of a<lb/>boundless ocean which<lb/>by those <unclear>also</unclear> ought<lb/>to supply it the use<lb/>of the only appropriate<lb/>compass is denied.</p> <p>We are aware and<lb/>duly sensible <del><gap/></del><lb/>what that <gap/> or <gap/><lb/><gap/> and receives <add>exacts</add> the<lb/>force of law is left<lb/>to be reached by <gap/><lb/>wandering through<lb/><add>many</add> hundreds of <gap/><lb/>not accessible but at<lb/>an <sic>expence</sic> of hundred<lb/>of pounds how much<lb/>greater than in France <add>a <gap/></add> where the <gap/> of a Judge<lb/>rule of action is <gap/><lb/>in an 8<hi rend="superscript">vo</hi> <gap/> purchasable<lb/>at the price of<lb/>a few <hi rend="superscript">shillings</hi>.</p> <pb/> <!-- start of third column --> <p>Whatsoever be the number<lb/>of persons who in<lb/>that country are <gap/><lb/>as well as willing to<lb/>give up their whole<lb/>time for next to no<lb/>pecuniary recompense<lb/>we can and <del>doubt</del><lb/>entertain as do we<lb/>believe <add>that to </add> the <add>Your</add> Honourable<lb/>House will <gap/> <gap/> <add>it will be matter of</add><lb/>no doubt that in<lb/>England there are men<lb/>in still greater number<lb/>by whom the same<lb/>utility is professed.</p> <!-- line in pencil across the column --> <p>For these added to<lb/>other reasons we neither<lb/>expect nor desire that<lb?><del>the retribution here attached</del><lb/><add>for</add> judicial; service<lb/><del>should be <gap/><lb/>to</del> the <del><gap/></del> <add>appointed</add><lb/>retribution should<lb/>be <gap/> from that which<lb/>is made <add>has place</add> in France.</p> <p>All we contend for<lb/>is that when we pray<lb/>for Judges in adequate<lb/>number each remunerated<lb/>by pecuniary<lb/><gap/> in <gap/> <gap/><lb/><than adequate<lb/>quantity, we may<lb/>not be <gap/> and <sic>suprized</sic><lb/>by the observation<lb/>that no person who<lb/>seems fit to serve would<lb/>with the <gap/> the<lb/><gap/> of service and <gap/><lb/>receive the proposal<lb/>of serving for such<lb/>a price.</p> <pb/> <!-- start of fourth column --> <p><gap/> duty <gap/><lb/>and ready to <gap/><lb/>that no person who<lb/>could get so <gap/><lb/>as <gap/> got would consent<lb/>to serve at a less<lb/>price if he were offered<lb/>that in withholding <gap/><lb/><gap/> he could receive<lb/>such greater<lb/>price.</p> <p>We are sensible that<lb/>whosoever came agreed<lb/>of receiving the greater<lb/>would refuse the loss<lb/>that of the present <gap/><lb/>was ten times<lb/>as great as they are<lb/>we can not in any<lb?>such <gap/> <gap/><lb/>reason for being afforded<lb/>that of <del>so <gap/> <gap/></del><lb/>power no greater than<lb/>a taste of what so <hi rend="underline"><gap/></hi><lb/><del><gap/> <gap/></del> had at present<lb?>was to be hired <del><gap/></del><lb/>this <gap/> of the previous<lb/>price would no find<lb/>acceptance at the hand<lb?>of person at least as<lb/><del>competent</del> fit for the<lb/>duty as those by whom<lb/>the present price was<lb/>received.</p> <!-- line in ink across the column --> <p><del><gap/></del> <gap/><lb/>has been heaped upon<lb/><gap/> — not only<lb/>for the sake of the <gap/> <add><gap/></add><lb/>enjoyment, but<lb/>for the sake of the recent<lb/><gap/> advantage<lb/>yielded <add>produced</add> by the <gap/><lb/>which the display of it<lb/>begat. But the <gap/><lb/>is now dissipated: the <lb/><!-- continues along the edge of the page --> talisman is broken. We have been <gap/> that when <gap/> <gap/> the direct rule of <gap/>: has in fact had too <gap/> that the pretended direct rule is the reverse of the real: the <gap/> <add><gap/> <gap/></add> a man is<lb/>easier it is to control him: the more <gap/><lb/>the <gap/></p> | ||
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1826 July 9
London Petition for Judicial Reform and against Eldon
With this example
before us we should
not be surprized if
under the guidance of
the Code of laws which
the French people are
so happy in the possession
of Judges in such adequate numbers are content
to been
for a retribute
so indirect not to say
, they were would be
if the experiment were
made to bestow
the same
labour without pecuniary
recompense to any amount
in any shape.
Were we even persuaded
of this, the example
of one say imposed
Judges serving
as such under the name
of Magistrates would
suffice to compel
such from
the imputation of extravagance.
We are at the
same time of the
We are assured at the
same time and are prepared
to prove that
on the part of these French
Judges Magistrates the field of judicature
of judicial competency — is at the same
time much more extensive
than that of an
English
one.
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We are aware on
the other hand of the inestimable
advantage of
having to act under a
Code of real law determined
in every word
of it instead of in comparison with a fictitious
Code or body of law
fictitious in the
most extensive part of
it purely fictitious the
Judge not having it in
his power to read aloud
as required at his hand
but left to conjecture
what after the
act is done by him
will be thought of the
propriety of it by he
knows not who.
Steering his course in
the man whose
lot is in his hands are has been
reduced to stones thrown
on the surface of a
boundless ocean which
by those also ought
to supply it the use
of the only appropriate
compass is denied.
We are aware and
duly sensible
what that or
and receives exacts the
force of law is left
to be reached by
wandering through
many hundreds of
not accessible but at
an expence of hundred
of pounds how much
greater than in France a where the of a Judge
rule of action is
in an 8vo purchasable
at the price of
a few shillings.
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Whatsoever be the number
of persons who in
that country are
as well as willing to
give up their whole
time for next to no
pecuniary recompense
we can and doubt
entertain as do we
believe that to the Your Honourable
House will it will be matter of
no doubt that in
England there are men
in still greater number
by whom the same
utility is professed.
For these added to
other reasons we neither
expect nor desire that<lb?>the retribution here attached
for judicial; service
should be
to the appointed
retribution should
be from that which
is made has place in France.
All we contend for
is that when we pray
for Judges in adequate
number each remunerated
by pecuniary
in
<than adequate
quantity, we may
not be and suprized
by the observation
that no person who
seems fit to serve would
with the the
of service and
receive the proposal
of serving for such
a price.
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duty
and ready to
that no person who
could get so
as got would consent
to serve at a less
price if he were offered
that in withholding
he could receive
such greater
price.
We are sensible that
whosoever came agreed
of receiving the greater
would refuse the loss
that of the present
was ten times
as great as they are
we can not in any<lb?>such
reason for being afforded
that of so
power no greater than
a taste of what so
had at present<lb?>was to be hired
this of the previous
price would no find
acceptance at the hand<lb?>of person at least as
competent fit for the
duty as those by whom
the present price was
received.
has been heaped upon
— not only
for the sake of the
enjoyment, but
for the sake of the recent
advantage
yielded produced by the
which the display of it
begat. But the
is now dissipated: the
talisman is broken. We have been that when the direct rule of : has in fact had too that the pretended direct rule is the reverse of the real: the a man is
easier it is to control him: the more
the
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