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<head>Letter 3<hi rend='superscript'>d</hi></head><!-- centred, and in pencil -->
<head>Letter 3<hi rend='superscript'>d</hi></head><!-- centred, and in pencil -->


<p>is , that even when every improvement looked to has
<p>is, that even when every improvement looked to has
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<unclear><del>also</del></unclear> actually been made the advantages , even setting
<unclear><del>also</del></unclear> actually been made the advantages, even setting
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aside what Your Lordship has just been seeing in
aside what Your Lordship has just been seeing in
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Chapter <hi rend='underline'>economy</hi> , sections a<hi rend='underline'>rchitectur</hi>e and <hi rend='underline'>official</hi>
Chapter <hi rend='underline'>economy</hi>, sections <hi rend='underline'>architectur</hi>e and <hi rend='underline'>official</hi>
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e<hi rend='underline'>stablishment</hi> , would not be every where alike indisputable . &#x2014;
<hi rend='underline'>establishment</hi>, would not be every where alike indisputable. &#x2014;
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all then "improved prisons": the prison in which the
all then "improved prisons": the prison in which the
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admirers of improved prisons would be most at home ,
admirers of improved prisons would be most at home,
<lb/>if in any : the prison honoured by their most <sic>especial</sic>
<lb/>if in any: the prison honoured by their most <sic>especial</sic>
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protection , and which it was their <sic>especial</sic> care should
protection, and which it was their <sic>especial</sic> care should
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note "<hi rend='underline'>become neglecte</hi>d" for want of inhabitants .  The
note "<hi rend='underline'>become neglected</hi>" for want of inhabitants.  The
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prison <del>sevi</del> serving for example , for proof I will beg
prison <del>sevi</del> serving for example, for proof I will beg
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leave to refer Your Lordship to a  very recent publication
leave to refer Your Lordship to a  very recent publication
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from a pen which as far as depends on intrinsic indications ,
from a pen which as far as depends on intrinsic indications,
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prefers though anonymous the most irrecusable
prefers though anonymous the most irrecusable
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claim to confidence . <add>*</add> <note><add>*</add> The True State of the House of Correction in Cold Bath Fields &amp;c by a Middlesex Magistrate . <unclear>1802</unclear><!-- this date on first glance looks like 1882, but it cannot be correct because it would be referring to something 50 years after Bentham's death.  The third number could be a '0', so as the former is not feasible, I think the latter is most likely, and the stroke of the upper part of the number does go the opposite way to the previous number (an '8').  He's just joined the '0' with a swirling sweeping stroke to join the '0' to the '2', which is a little misleading.  What do you think, 1802 ?  --> .</note>  To Your Lordship , is such things
claim to confidence. <add>*</add> <note><add>*</add> The True State of the House of Correction in Cold Bath Fields &amp;c by a Middlesex Magistrate. 1802.</note>  To Your Lordship, is such things
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were worth knowing , the name of the Author could  
were worth knowing, the name of the Author could  
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scarcely I <unclear>think</unclear><!-- it looks like the last letter has been changed, but difficult to discern whether it was initially a 'g' or something else, and the stroke below the line is in fact a deletion line.  Amend as you see fit. --> be unknown : although to me , who
scarcely I <unclear>think</unclear><!-- it looks like the last letter has been changed, but difficult to discern whether it was initially a 'g' or something else, and the stroke below the line is in fact a deletion line.  Amend as you see fit. --> be unknown: although to me, who
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kn<del>u</del>ow<del>s</del> nothing , it remains unknown , choosing it
kn<del>u</del>ow<del>s</del> nothing, it remains unknown, choosing it
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should be for the sort of reason above mentioned . &#x2014;
should be for the sort of reason above mentioned. &#x2014;
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<p> <!-- indented -->The passages in question are as follows : "<hi rend='underline'>industry,</hi>
<p> <!-- indented -->The passages in question are as follows: "<hi rend='underline'>industry,</hi>
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"o<hi rend='underline'>rde</hi>r , d<hi rend='underline'>iscipline</hi> , s<hi rend='underline'>ubordinatio</hi>n , <hi rend='underline'>economy</hi>" are the points  
"<hi rend='underline'>order</hi>, <hi rend='underline'>disciplines</hi>, <hi rend='underline'><unclear>ubordination</unclear></hi>, <hi rend='underline'>economy</hi>" are the points  
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they touch upon .
they touch upon.
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<p><!-- indented -->N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 1. Page 11.  "The due e<hi rend='underline'>mployme</hi>nt of the Prisoners
<p><!-- indented -->N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 1. Page 11.  "The due <hi rend='underline'>employment</hi> of the Prisoners
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"according to law in such work as they have been accustomed
"according to law in such work as they have been accustomed
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"to , &amp; for which they are most fit , has been <hi rend='underline'>discontinued</hi> ;
"to, &amp; for which they are most fit, has been <hi rend='underline'>discontinued</hi>;
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"&amp; since that time there has been a gradual decline of
"&amp; since that time there has been a gradual decline of
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"industry , order , discipline &amp; subordination in the Prison" .  <add>N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 2.</add>
"industry, order , discipline &amp; subordination in the Prison".  <add>N<hi rend='superscript'>o</hi> 2.</add>
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35 Letter 3d

is, that even when every improvement looked to has
also actually been made the advantages, even setting
aside what Your Lordship has just been seeing in
Chapter economy, sections architecture and official
establishment, would not be every where alike indisputable. —

In proof of the latter proposition I will beg
leave to take for an example the most favourite of
all then "improved prisons": the prison in which the
admirers of improved prisons would be most at home,
if in any: the prison honoured by their most especial
protection, and which it was their especial care should
note "become neglected" for want of inhabitants. The
prison sevi serving for example, for proof I will beg
leave to refer Your Lordship to a very recent publication
from a pen which as far as depends on intrinsic indications,
prefers though anonymous the most irrecusable
claim to confidence. * * The True State of the House of Correction in Cold Bath Fields &c by a Middlesex Magistrate. 1802. To Your Lordship, is such things
were worth knowing, the name of the Author could
scarcely I think be unknown: although to me, who
knuows nothing, it remains unknown, choosing it
should be for the sort of reason above mentioned. —

The passages in question are as follows: "industry,
"order, disciplines, ubordination, economy" are the points
they touch upon.

No 1. Page 11. "The due employment of the Prisoners
"according to law in such work as they have been accustomed
"to, & for which they are most fit, has been discontinued;
"& since that time there has been a gradual decline of
"industry, order , discipline & subordination in the Prison". No 2.



Identifier: | JB/116/629/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.

Date_1

Marginal Summary Numbering

Box

116

Main Headings

panopticon versus new south wales

Folio number

629

Info in main headings field

letter 3d

Image

001

Titles

Category

copy/fair copy sheet

Number of Pages

2

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

d35 / d36

Penner

john herbert koe

Watermarks

1800

Marginals

Paper Producer

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

1800

Notes public

letter was never sent; see note 8 to letter 1747, vol. 7

ID Number

38162

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