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1820 Feb. 25
Radicalism not dangerous

ulto
III Experience
II Ireland
7 §.4. Golden age terminated

16
On 1783 Novr 29th fate
of parl. reform in
Ireland, thence perhaps
in Britain, decided for
no one can say what
length of time. From
up to that day
continued the advance
of only true representative,
retreat
of British Monarch with
his dependents and adherents
in both

The 29th of Nov.r 1783 was the day the important/big day
on which the lot fate of Ireland parliamentary reform and without
that of Ireland and peradventure thereby also of Great Britain was — no
one can say for what length of time decided. Up Down to that day
the course had been continual — of advance on the part of the
Associated Volunteers the only true representatives of the people
of retrial on the part of the British Monarchy Monarch with his
dependants and adherents in the two Houses. On
that day, the within trumpet's sound of the then sitting Parliament, the convention
was sitting with presided and directed by the Earl of Charlemont for its self sought President
to the House of Commons from the convention came to with a Parliamentary Reform
Bill in his hand Mr Grattan's great and worthy worthy and formidable rival,
Mr Flood. The House of Commons made a stand If At
the end of an almost furious debate, the motion was negative
by a large majority, the mover having been dealt with in the
character of the b chief of an invading enemy. The force
of established of words of custom and prejudice government of president and habitual prejudice
was on the side of the House of Commons; normal representatives of the people physical forces
were on the side of the Conventi armed associat only real
representatives: the delegates sent by the great t all the and acting
power of the people to the assembly stated and prep not unhappily
unappositely stated the Convention after the manner of these
Assemblies to which the people of the United States are in the chamber of this/the most immediate of their
still and were even then so highly and
indebted.. The Conventionalists it appears sufficiently manifest from the accounts even on their part not all disposed disinclined
to make their stand. Had a Instead of a Charlemont had a
Cromerite been at their hand, what would have become of the people
their
sham representatives
with that other House the
fallen to which was received in
some days to gather the so
well merited appellation
of useless, can scarcely
be matter of doubt.

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On this day, from
Convention, headed by
Charlemont, sitting within
trumpets sound, came
Flood to Commons House
Flood, (Grattan's worthy rival)
with parl. reform bill,
Instrumental that of an
invading army.

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With the nominal representatives,
the force of
words, custom and habitual
prejudice: with the
only real delegates the
Convention, force
Convention, name to which<lb/.U.S. were even then so
conspicuously indebted.
Conventionalist not ill-disposed
to make a stand.
Instead of Charlemont,
headed by Cromwell, the
sham representatives
have been disproved of as
by him, will
those of the other
House so termed
useless.

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Date_1	1820-02-25	Marginal Summary Numbering	16-17
Box	137	Main Headings	radicalism not dangerous
Folio number	204	Info in main headings field	radicalism not dangerous
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