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<p><note>17 <lb/>2 Cause of the deficiency <lb/>in point of <lb/>economy in the <lb/>prison <lb/>&#x2014; shortness of the <gap/> <lb/>thence <unclear>waste</unclear> of time <lb/>for profit <del>after instruction</del> <add>in compensation <lb/>for loss by</add> of said <lb/><gap/></note> <lb/>Upon the principles I have thus ventured to point to, <lb/>on <del>In</del> the improved <add><del>to me</del></add> prisons <add>in question,</add> <del>one drawback from the goodness</del> <lb/><add<del>>such of things I mean</del> as</add> <lb/>present or future, are drawbacks from the goodness <lb/>of the economy &#x2014; one great drawback and that an unavoidable <lb/>one &#x2014; is the <hi rend="underline">smallness of the scale</hi>.  
<p><note>17 <lb/>2 Cause of the deficiency <lb/>in point of <lb/>economy in the <lb/>prison <lb/>&#x2014; shortness of the terms <lb/>thence <unclear>waste</unclear> of time <lb/>for profit <del>after instruction</del> <add>in compensation <lb/>for loss by</add> <del><gap/></del> of said <lb/><gap/></note> <lb/>
Another is the <lb/><hi rend="underline">shortness of the term</hi> which, <add>in these receptacles for petty offenders,</add> the imprisoned hands have to <lb/>learn the business in, and afford a compensation, for the <lb/>time and materials consumed <del>in work</del> without profit, during <lb/>the season of <add><gap/>
Upon the principles I have thus ventured to point to, <lb/>
</add> awkwardness.</p>
on <del>In</del> the improved <add><del>local</del></add> prisons <add>in question,</add> <del>one drawback from the goodness</del>  
<add><del>such of things I mean</del> as</add> <lb/>
present or future, are drawbacks from the goodness <lb/>
of the economy &#x2014; one great drawback and that an unavoidable <lb/>
one &#x2014; is the <hi rend="underline">smallness of the scale</hi>.  
Another is the <lb/>
<hi rend="underline">shortness of the term</hi> which, <add>in these receptacles for petty offenders,</add> the imprisoned hands have to <lb/>learn the business in, and afford a compensation, for the <lb/>time and materials consumed <del>in work</del> without profit, during <lb/>the season of <add>primaeval</add> awkwardness.</p>


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<head><hi rend="underline">[91]</hi></head>
<p>Under these disadvantages, <del>I can not look upon it</del> <lb/>together with <add>that which results from</add> the differences between the <del> par value</del> <add>wages</add> of labour, <lb/>as compared with the expence of maintenance, here and in America, <lb/>I should not expect to find it within the compass <lb/><note>18 <lb/>3 Cause &#x2014; cheapness <lb/> of <add>rough</add> labour in comparison <lb/>of the first <lb/><unclear>Disincrease</unclear> of province <lb/>in the English <lb/>Counties compared <lb/>with Philadelphia</note> <lb/>of human <del>talent</del> <add>ability,</add> through devoted exclusively in the service, <lb/>to bring the improved <add>English</add> prisons <del>here</del> in question upon a land <lb/>in point of economy with that of Philadelphia. It is not <lb/>without <sic>surprize</sic> that in some instances within my reach <lb/>Dorsetshire in particular (Bedfordshire I have but an indistinct </add> recollection of) <add> I have observed <add>in how meritorious</add> <del>wo which</del> a degree <lb/>these obstacles have been overcome. <del>I verily believe <add>should expect to find</add> (but <lb/> I beg leave to stand excused from the thankless labour necessary <lb/>to speak with certainty) I verily believe <add>should much expect to find</add> Dorsetshire, even <lb/>with the Blackburn millstone about his neck would be <lb/>found to stand above New York.</del> </p>
<p>Under these disadvantages, <del>I can not look upon it</del> <lb/>
together with <add>that which results from</add> the differences between the <del> par value</del> <add>wages</add> of labour, <lb/>
as compared with the expence of maintenance, here and in America, <lb/>
I should not expect to find it within the compass <lb/><note>18 <lb/>3 Cause &#x2014; cheapness <lb/> of <add>rough</add> labour in comparison <lb/>of the first <lb/><unclear>Disincrease</unclear> of province <lb/>in the English <lb/>Counties compared <lb/>with Philadelphia</note> <lb/>
of human <del>talent</del> <add>ability,</add> through devoted exclusively in the service, <lb/>to bring the improved <add>English</add> prisons <del>here</del> in question upon a land <lb/>in point of economy with that of Philadelphia. It is not <lb/>without <sic>surprize</sic> that in some instances within my reach <lb/>Dorsetshire in particular (Oxfordshire I have but an indistinct recollection of)</add> I have observed <add>in how meritorious</add> <del>to which</del> a degree <lb/>these obstacles have been overcome. <del>I verily believe <add>should expect to find</add> (but <lb/> I beg leave to stand excused from the thankless labour necessary <lb/>to speak with certainty) I verily believe <add>should much expect to find</add> Dorsetshire, even <lb/>with the Blackburn millstone about his neck would be <lb/>found to stand above New York.</del> </p>


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<p><note>18) <lb/>The fficacy of the <lb/>System can not <lb/>be made so <unclear>clear</unclear> <lb/>in <unclear>these</unclear> local prisons <lb/>as in the State <lb/>prison at Philadelphia <lb/>especially <!-- guessing at the order: going pencil to pencil, ink to ink --> as the <lb/><gap/> there is <lb/>owing in great <gap/> <lb/>to the <unclear>abolishing</unclear> of punishment.</note> <lb/>In these home instances the grand misfortune is, that <lb/>in regard to the main object &#x2014; the object with <add><del>which is the main object</del></add> reference to which <hi rend="underline">example</hi> <lb/><del>in respect of the decorum of <gap/>, the practical that result</del> <lb/>and <hi rend="underline">reformation</hi> <del>itself</del> <add>themselves</add> are but as means to an end &#x2014; I mean the <add><hi rend="underline">decision</hi></add> <lb/><del>which is the ultimate and only <unclear>intrinsically</unclear> <gap/> <gap/> first <lb/><add><hi rend="underline">of serious</hi></add> and the </del>  
<p><note>19) <lb/>The efficacy of the <lb/>System can not <lb/>be made so clear <lb/>in the local prisons <lb/>as in the State <lb/>prison at Philadelphia <lb/>especially <!-- guessing at the order: going pencil to pencil, ink to ink --> as the <lb/><gap/> there is <lb/>owing in great <gap/> <lb/>to the <unclear>abolishing</unclear> of punishment.</note> <lb/>In these home instances the grand misfortune is, that <lb/>in regard to the main object &#x2014; the object with <add><del>which is the main object</del></add> reference to which <hi rend="underline">example</hi> <lb/>
 
<del>in respect of the decrease of crimes, the practicals that requite</del> <lb/>and <hi rend="underline">reformation</hi> <del>itself</del> <add>themselves</add> are but as means to an end &#x2014; I mean the <add><hi rend="underline">decision</hi></add> <lb/>
 
<del>which is the ultimate and only intrinsically <gap/> <gap/> fruit</del><lb/> <add><hi rend="underline">of crimes</hi></add> <del>and the true measure of the utility of the system as <gap/> the <add>the ultimate</add> <lb/><add> <del>and</del> to </add> way of reformation and &#x2014; example and with reforms to which <add> in respect to this subject <gap/> and almost only <lb/>
 
<gap/> valuable <lb/>that the ground that <lb/><gap/> of these local <lb/>prisons  as that <lb/> reformation and example are but as money</del> &#x2014; circumstances <lb/>do not <sic>admitt</sic> of <del>as</del> their affording <del>such</del> any such rates factory <lb/>proofs of <del>their</del> efficacy as in <lb/><del>evidence as</del> the more favourable situation of <del>the Pennsylvania</del> <add>the Philadelphia prison </add> <lb/>may be and have been &#x2014; why? because <del>the <lb/>enabled it to</del> afforded: the <hi rend="underline">good</hi> effects of the discipline of these <hi rend="underline">good</hi> <lb/> jails <del>being</del> <add>are to such <del>a</del> degree</add> drowned in the <hi rend="underline">bad</hi> effects of the surrounding <hi rend="underline">bad</hi> ones. <hi rend="superscript">(a)</hi> In <lb/><note><hi rend="superscript">(a)</hi>Note in two other pages.</note> <lb/><add><hi rend="underline">Pennsylvania</hi></add>
 
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12 Dec 1802 +16 Letter 3d (5

17
2 Cause of the deficiency
in point of
economy in the
prison
— shortness of the terms
thence waste of time
for profit after instruction in compensation
for loss by
of said

Upon the principles I have thus ventured to point to,
on In the improved local prisons in question, one drawback from the goodness such of things I mean as
present or future, are drawbacks from the goodness
of the economy — one great drawback and that an unavoidable
one — is the smallness of the scale. Another is the
shortness of the term which, in these receptacles for petty offenders, the imprisoned hands have to
learn the business in, and afford a compensation, for the
time and materials consumed in work without profit, during
the season of primaeval awkwardness.

[91]

Under these disadvantages, I can not look upon it
together with that which results from the differences between the par value wages of labour,
as compared with the expence of maintenance, here and in America,
I should not expect to find it within the compass
18
3 Cause — cheapness
of rough labour in comparison
of the first
Disincrease of province
in the English
Counties compared
with Philadelphia

of human talent ability, through devoted exclusively in the service,
to bring the improved English prisons here in question upon a land
in point of economy with that of Philadelphia. It is not
without surprize that in some instances within my reach
Dorsetshire in particular (Oxfordshire I have but an indistinct recollection of)</add> I have observed in how meritorious to which a degree
these obstacles have been overcome. I verily believe should expect to find (but
I beg leave to stand excused from the thankless labour necessary
to speak with certainty) I verily believe should much expect to find Dorsetshire, even
with the Blackburn millstone about his neck would be
found to stand above New York.

4

19)
The efficacy of the
System can not
be made so clear
in the local prisons
as in the State
prison at Philadelphia
especially as the
there is
owing in great
to the abolishing of punishment.

In these home instances the grand misfortune is, that
in regard to the main object — the object with which is the main object reference to which example
in respect of the decrease of crimes, the practicals that requite
and reformation itself themselves are but as means to an end — I mean the decision
which is the ultimate and only intrinsically fruit
of crimes and the true measure of the utility of the system as the the ultimate
<add> and
to </add> way of reformation and — example and with reforms to which in respect to this subject and almost only
valuable
that the ground that
of these local
prisons as that
reformation and example are but as money — circumstances
do not admitt of as their affording such any such rates factory
proofs of their efficacy as in
evidence as the more favourable situation of the Pennsylvania <add>the Philadelphia prison

may be and have been — why? because the
enabled it to
afforded: the good effects of the discipline of these good
jails being are to such a degree drowned in the bad effects of the surrounding bad ones. (a) In
(a)Note in two other pages.
Pennsylvania




Identifier: | JB/116/552/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.

Date_1

1802-12-12

Marginal Summary Numbering

17-19

Box

116

Main Headings

panopticon versus new south wales

Folio number

552

Info in main headings field

letter 3d

Image

001

Titles

Category

correspondence

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

e5 / f16

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

Marginals

jeremy bentham

Paper Producer

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

Notes public

letter was never sent; see note 8 to letter 1747, vol. 7

ID Number

38085

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