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Conversation with Ld. L.

1789. Saturday. June 27. Ld. L. in order to gain the Empress
for offering to accede to the armed neutrality, but conditionally – on condition
of her mediating in our favour with Holland. Fox carried it against
him in the Cabinet to have the offer unconditional: and the Letter from Fox,
Home Secretary of State, to Sweden was penned accordingly. NB. I
had already read the Letter in a volume of correspondence Ld. L. left for
my perusal. Fox, to gain credit with the Empress gave her to understand
what had passed on that occasion in the Cabinet.

Gave me to understand there was a negotiation thus depending between
him and the Ks. for his coming in. Seemed to hesitate between the
Foreign Department and Ireland. Spoke of Ireland as a thing below him,
otherwise a place where he should find himself much at his ease. "You
and I and Romilly, should govern it with a Hair." Many questions
about my circumstances – my answers general – that it was true I had
nothing, but that I had been used all my life long to live upon nothing –
and that nothing was perfectly sufficient. Questions about my aptitude and
inclination for Parliament. Answers, that my voice was the most
inaudible one that ever was – that I was perfectly unfit for talking upon
common-places – that if I could do any thing any where it must be in
Committees, or in the way of reply, taking in pieces the arguments on the
other side – That I never would nor ever could argue against my own
opinion verbally or in writing – He said he was not the man to expect it,
as the all? of Rockingham did.

Complained repeatedly of Pitt and Thurlow for breach of faith – Something
had been concerted between him and Thurlow that it was essential the KL
should

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