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1811 Feb. 24
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If food of forms, he is by so much that less for
to be . This from had this imposed been he would
have them.

From the Times 23 Febry 1811. House of Lords 22 Feby.
Lord Grenville

"There was a general idea, and among the worst
"signs of the times, that there was a disposition to neglect all forms."

"The Constitution could not be preserved but by attention to forms.
"He was old fashioned enough to admire our forms. This transaction
"was against all forms, as the old mode would have been by Proclamation
"of the Lord Lieutenant in Council. Had the Privy
"Council been called, there had not be issued a paper co nomine,
"against the Catholics. All communication had been withheld
"from the Regent, and no proof given of any conciliatory endeavours
"of the Government."

☞ 18 Aug. 17 1819. Quere the correctness of what the argument that follows in
this sheet: or not have its applicability to the purpose.

N.B. To disapprove of the measure of which disapprobation
is here expressed by Lord Grenville, it was not
necessary for a man to be a lover of forms. The departure
(if the matter of fact supposed be here) the
departure was not a departure of from mere form, but
a departure in substance. The thing to be don For the
purpose of controul – ere that the controul might be so
much the stronger – the thing to be desired was that the
quantity of responsibility, and thence the number of persons
subjected to it should be as great as the nature of
the case admitted of. Under the usage as stated, not
only by the Lord Lieutenant's secretary, but the Lord
Lieutenant himself was by the use made of his
name, held forth as responsible, and not only the
Lord Lieutenant, but of the persons composing his Privy
Council, all such whom if any whose names were along
with his annexed to the Proclamation, or by the Minute
of the Council Board, (if any therein any such entry as
that in question is made) appear to have been
present and not dissenting. On the occasion of the proceeding and all those responsible persons. It exhibits
but one responsible
person, and
he in comparison of
many of the others but

the Lord Lieutenant's Secretary, the law is dependant not in form made, but in substance. If a form is its is the purpose.
If be the purpose what it may, the form in question be ill adapted had the sooner this then is changed for a better, the better. But in the case here in question
occasion is taken to give men to understand, that
forms in general well or ill adapted are good things,
and that be as forms be they ever so ill adapted, it ought not to be
changed.

Identifier: | JB/104/292/001"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 104.
Date_1	1811-02-24	Marginal Summary Numbering	or 4 - or 5
Box	104	Main Headings	fallacies
Folio number	292	Info in main headings field	fallacies
Image	001	Titles	from the times 23 feby 1811 house of lords 27 feby lord grenville
Category	text sheet	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering
Penner	jeremy bentham	Watermarks	th 1806
Marginals	jeremy bentham	Paper Producer	andre morellet
Corrections		Paper Produced in Year	1806
Notes public		ID Number	34263
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