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1819 July 4
Collectanea? Notes from Earl Grey's Speech June 13 1810 on the State of the Nation

Reform what approved.
Gradual, temperate &
judicious reform suited
to the nature of the evil,
the character of the Government
and to principles of the
Constitution.

"Some difference between
my present sentiments &
former impressions.

The general opionion:
.. There not seen causes
to change .. No great
grounds.

Conceptions not so high
of the magnitude of the evil,
with certainty of the remedy.

This the most important
question that

Judicious reform. Such as
be shall taken from designing designing more
than pretexts & means
of misleading the public &c

Record Grounds of
perfection I should
never rest upon.

needing to apply remedy to
an admitted inconvenience
where practically
felt – but di continue
to disapprove of general
and vague speculations
(as if anything should be
more vague than his
description of them.

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Vituperation of
by those who transfer
written to unwritten
law

Take his principles from
Fox

Fox's principles "while
"a system was practically
"good he would always
"abstain from murdering it
"by theories.

Fox's conviction of
"the absolute impossibility
"of providing for all the
"variety of human events
"by any previous speculative
"plan".

Fox's argument – No
perfect Houses, therefore
no House at all.

Determined to adhere to
These principles (Fox's) of
practical reform.

Aº1792 The Friends of
the people accused of being
no friends to
reform because not so
to what was
called radical reform.

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Aº1792
Quotation from
Friends of the
people their declaration
of those principles upon
which thus associated
in answer to a charge
by the Society for prompt
Constitutional information

(N.B. Not a syllable in
the whole speech by which
anyone can be informed
or bound.)

Thereupon remediative
of communication with the
Society.

– in bad
nature or intentions
to any of those persons
though any how
violated all &c
of social life.

p.565
"No impediment is
"calculated to have a
"more hostile influence
"on the success of a temperate
"reform than
"the attempt be from
"a reform by public
"decisions".

it propooses that government
should itself
take it up the subject

"extremely desirous
"that any principles
"on this subject should
"be fully known

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N.B. I have not
the least objection to
subscribe to this Speech:
why – because it
expresses nothing, and
binds not to anything
the man who uses
it.

But for this experience
I should not have things
to with any view
or any character
capable of standing
forth and not
giving utterance to
such a mass of nothingness

Understanding him to have need
and avowed a

I had expected his
reasons for its his
so that he
denies his having
made any

N.B. A man who
is bound to nothing
has said nothing

N.B. A man who
is bound to nothing
has said nothing

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Date_1	1819-07-04	Marginal Summary Numbering
Box	109	Main Headings	Parliamentary Reform
Folio number	107	Info in main headings field	Collectanea To Erskine Notes from Earl Grey's Speech June 13 1810 on the State of the Nation
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