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Panopt. v N. S. W. Brouillon
Supplement 27 Oct 1802

Remedies unavailing
Evidence unobtainable

For judging of the
number of crimes
committed, there
could not be a
criterion more erroneous delusive
that that any
which would could be assured from drawn
of by the number
punished. In an
old-established community
— in
— more especially
the great bulk
of the people make
common cause against
malefactors.
In this extraord. new community
the bulk of the population people
are themselves
malefactors — make
common cause in favour
of each malefactor
— make common
cause against
the ministers of
justice.


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Reformation Conclusion
Functionaries unfaithful

To say that it
had done nothing
for reformation would
be doing it more
than justice. The
numbers so far reclaimed changed
for a time as to have
put off the course
of habitual delinquency criminality.

If against the few
reformed the very
few that may be
set down as reformed
— reformed to appearance
and for a
time we set down
in the first place the
large proportion of
backsliders, the
remainder of real
and permanent
converts
will be found reduced
to very narrow
limits.

If against this
remainder — this
small amount on the
side of reformation
we set down — the
civil officers and
other
public functionaries
in the civil
department — the
Clerks the Storekeepers
Servants corrupted
as above by the contagion of
the place — the
seamen converted
into the couriers of
stolen goods — into
favourers of desertion
harbourers of prison
-breaking deserting criminals
the Seamen corrupted
by the cohabitation
with the
females of the Colony
a set of beings represented
by the highest
authorities as outstripping
in depravity
even

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even the most depraved
of the
rougher sex, we
shall find but too
conclusive reason to
believe be persuaded, that instead
of being in
any degree a source
of reformation, the
settlement may and
ought to be set down
as a source of
corruption, and
that in the nature
of the case a perennial
and inexhaustible one.


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Conclusion to Supplement

And now my
Lord the public
will expect to know
what are those
considerations by
those deep and recondite
considerations

which in comparison
of which
reformation &c
have for these
eight years &
in particular
for these 6 1/2 years
been set at
nought? for
which the tale of depravity
has in all its
shapes has been
cherished and
kept up — the
authority of Parliament

trampled upon
the violation of
public faith
continued & perpetuated?


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Your Lordship
will certainly be not be to
enabled to sick for an answer
for Your Lordship
has taken above
a twelvemonth to
consider of it.

These are among
the things which
Your Lordship
may perhaps be
expected to explain
in whatever conversation. Your Lordship
may be
pleased to hold
with the D
and the
Judges.

I have the honour
to be with all
possible respect,
My Lord &c.


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After American Extracts
stating success.

Such has been the
success of the Penitentiary
System
even without the assistance
of the Inspection
principle.
Is it too strong
too efficient for
Right Honourable
Gentlemen? does
the light of it
shine too strongly
for their eyes.
Shall it be set
aside then — and
a Penitentiary House
without this advantage
and at
more than ten times
the expence, be
employd instead
of it?

First call in the
Americans — and
see the shifts they
are reduced to
for want of it.

Where was the
intended scene of
the intended conference?
— The
secretum judicis?

My Lord, an
English Judge has
no such plan:
the English Judge
has no ear for

So all secret —
to all is
applications your
Lordship will find
those
as deaf , as for this
have
found certain Right Honourable ones though
not exactly from the same causes.


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I have stated to
Your Lordship what
there was in Philadelphia.
I will
now state what there
was not.

There was no p
, at his entrance
into a high and
secret place
(into one of those
high places where
Baal is but too
often sacrificed to —
to set him down
and say — Away
with your laws — away
with your V
— the land
is mine and shall
be mine — touch it
if you dare

This way no professor
favourite of to stand
up and say, You
have bought your
land. I saw you
as you were buying
it and .
You have bought
your land: your
land it touches upon
mine. My land
is holy ground.
You have bought
your land: now use
it if you dare.

Reformation could
is this is that what you
want? — I will
teach you how to
have it. Distribute
good books every day: prohibit
newspapers every
seventh. Do this
and let depredation
and
and drunkenness
and fornication and
every other deadly
sin Go live for
ever in New South
Wales.


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There were no
matters of more
and figures and things, with
haughtiness in his
brow and obsequiousness
in his heart, to
answer them to the right & left and
say — My dear
Lord, my good
make yourself
easy — Your Lordships
will is mine.
What are laws
and what are engagements
to when set against Your Lordships
pleasure?

— to bow to the
right and left
to bow year after
year to every Lord
that shewed himself
and say

All this all comprized in three simplicity can it be
new to Your Lordship?
I hope it is
— I hope it is not —
I know not what to
hope. If not unknown
why unknown? if
known, why not profited
by in all this
time?

Reformation effected

They abolished Rid of
sloth: they shewn made
the number a scarcity
of crimes. The first
was the cause, the
other the effect: it
was by the hand of
many they did the
work of justice.


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— instead of being
remembering that you are a politician. You
turn Journalist, and
amuse yourself
your correspondent
with remarks on the
supposed state of
temper of my mind:
as if, were I to
turn mad tomorrow, the
penitentiary system
would be a jot the
worse, the
system a jot
the better for it.

By a letter from me
Mr Addington is
informed that the
of the administration the consider
p in relate
to the business has
not been altogether
what it is to correct
more would evict
to
find it, and for
particulars reference
is made to him
to one of the few members
of it in whom
persons of all parties
and descriptions have
confidence.
of
He sees that person —
and dares not mention
it &c

Another person
recommends prevails upon it to
him to go and put
these questions which
he ought to have put
before, he puts
them and finds
the fullest confirmation
given to every
thing I had advanced
— and there the matter
rests.

Mr Vansittart — &c
Your Lordship — &c


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When your
Lordship is has
woken, the slept long enough
Judges consulted
or not consulted
I shall be proud
to have the benefit
of Your
Lordship's
thoughts

C
and for this
1 1/2 your Lordship
has been
sleeping on the
business.

They begin to enter
into the distinction
between the desires of
filling a place, and
the faculty of fulfilling
the duties of it.

Write or not write
himself His Lordship may
have as well to
write to as any body
does.




Identifier: | JB/116/462/001
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Date_1

1802-10-27

Marginal Summary Numbering

Box

116

Main Headings

panopticon versus new south wales

Folio number

462

Info in main headings field

panopt. v n. s. w. brouillon supplement

Image

001

Titles

Category

rudiments sheet (brouillon)

Number of Pages

2

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

1800

Marginals

Paper Producer

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

1800

Notes public

ID Number

37995

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