JB/116/497/001

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Letter 3d

Decr 1802

know what a favourite he is you know whom. Besides
it is your mistake: our noble friend is steady enough when
he fixes: when his Agents thought he would have come in
to it, he was not fixed. He is fixed enough now, I can
assure you. If we were to disappoint him now, Sir
Charles what would be the consequence? Sir, What
in a little time would become of religion—I tremble but to think of
there would be no such thing as religion in the world. !
How could he
could not go on propagating the Gospel any longer in any comfort,
if we did not keep on on were to leave off , and leave off propagating immorality
in New South Wales? As to starving and crowded
Jails and Jail fevers, and Hulks and starving and so forth all
that, all this was very well in Howard, but after all what does
it signify? if we did not is it not so much money saved?
and if we did not shew starve them or poison them, would
not they die of themselves? Then again as to money thrown
away: money £2000: land £12,000: both together
it is but £14,000: had we bought out the leases
that would have been another thousand: but we stopped in
time: and so that money was saved: had we given paid it
to Lord Salisbury as he proposed, he would get nothing by it,
so there was no use in paying it. As to indemnification to
the man, then my dear Sir you are quite mistaken—
we talked to him about indemnification because we knew
it could not be done: we knew it would not. If he had
bit at this thing, he must have let go the other; so we should
have had less trouble:+ There are two Acts for these Gaols: and
not a syllable what is there any thing in in either for paying about paying a man
for not setting up one? not a single syllable. Any thing
to oblige you, Sir Charles, prove so it were but possible:
but do you think we are to make jobs as to a job, you know no better than to expect it.

+ Our disposition
was to have given
him a pension for life
we should have felt it
as long as he lived.
In 1798 Ever since
1794 we have been felt
a disposition to set up
his Jail: we said so in
1798 we told the Committee of Finance so in 1798: but always some friend or other slipped in to prevent it: we feel it as strong as ever: and we like it so well, we never intend to part with it.

Identifier: | JB/116/497/001 "JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.
Date_1	1802-12	Marginal Summary Numbering
Box	116	Main Headings	panopticon versus new south wales
Folio number	497	Info in main headings field	letter 3d
Image	001	Titles
Category	text sheet	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering	f23
Penner	jeremy bentham	Watermarks	cw 1799
Marginals		Paper Producer	c. abbit lees
Corrections		Paper Produced in Year	1799
Notes public		ID Number	38030
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