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Letter 3d

23 Novr 1802

XVI. Improved prisons

Waste upon on that same comparatively Suffolk frugal scale, upon official main buildings
among yards for strong wards, and official establishments
together (Salaries valued at 20 years purchase) £16.528.754
Sixteen million and a half the waste out of four 21 million and a half by having ten
establishments instead of one. Thus were however were mere pauper establishments;
the inhabitants population tractable in its nature, and in a great part were tractable for the most part to a degree
of helplessness. Prison establi To the expence of these pauper
establishments—establishments, prisons with their especially upon the Blackburne plan
with the plan pursued generally and for aught I know universally in the existing improved prisons
would have added I know not what load of further expence
in solitary cells and I know with useless stone and iron in abundance.
But strike that this extra expence out of the account. I mention it only <hi rend="underline">pro
memoria
In an account like this, a few millions or so
are scarce worth so many .

the economy of Mr Pitt a most noble co

To save the public the expence of the one obnoxious
peniten prison so often mentioned, a most noble colleague

of Mr Pitt's a most noble predecessor Your Lordship
I speak from the best authority was upon to
for filling the country with prisons upon the improved

time to profess his determination was professed to force the country to fill itself
plan what he meant by with these very improved prisons: meaning the
Blackburn prisons above mentioned. If ten for one
gives in round numbers a waste of four out of five, what will
257 for me give?+ I do not take upon me privately to affirm that the rule of
three would serve for the precise exact solution of this problem
without a few the benefit a few more data for the application of
it. One thing I will venture to affirm—viz. that the
very identical talents which gave birth to that plan and determination
are at any time the very same which Your Lordship
and the public is under your Lordships auspices every day experiencing the benefit of
under Your Lordships auspices:
and if those shall be not enough, for the correction of any error
that may have unintentionally attached itself to so unavoidably rough
an estimate, I would beg leave to refer Your Lordship
to the still more splendid resplendent ones of the Right Honourable
Gentleman who on all agreeable occasions is so fond of arithmetic
and its calculation.

much less room sufficient
to prevent disease than necessary
for separation and profitable
industry.
Penitentiary System not appropriate
to prisoners on mesne process,

To the plan for forcing
the country to fill itself
with local Penitentiary
Houses upon a small scale, there
are two objections. One is that
it will not suffer itself to be forced
2. the other is that it is not desirable
that it should.

+ See Pauper p. 44

That the question should
be solved with

+ That for the solution
of this question the rule of
three should without any
further date be an
altogether sufficient guide
is certainly much more
than I can venture take upon me to
affirm—a point I can
speak to with more confidence is—



Identifier: | JB/116/498/002
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Marginal Summary Numbering

Box

116

Main Headings

panopticon versus new south wales

Folio number

498

Info in main headings field

letter 3

Image

002

Titles

Category

text sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

f18

Penner

jeremy bentham

Watermarks

1800

Marginals

Paper Producer

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

1800

Notes public

ID Number

38031

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