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Letter 3d

11 Decr 1802

XVI Improved prisons

28
The last of the four
grounds of relinquishment
is thus exhibited
—improved
state of the prisons.

And thus now, without any original intention on my part,
Your Lordship has seen, as it were by a side-glance,
the forth and last of the four ground of relinquishment,
of the three first of which my letter give presented Your
Lordship with a bird's eye view:—any clear one would
be too wide a digression from the present purpose. and must be
convenient place.

29
The ground is
equally weak
whether the Interview
plan thus professed
was or was not
formed entertained.

Far be it from me to say whether his Grace did or
did not wish to see that system of improv that which he
thus professed professes to wish:—far be it for me to say that whether his
Grace did or not expect to see what he thus professes
to expect:—far be it from me to say whether in
signing this letter, he had or had not a thought about
what he was signing:—as far be it for me to say, whether
the gentleman who wrote this letter held the pen, for his Grace had
or had not a thought about what he was writing. All
this shall be exactly as his Grace and Your Lordship pleases,
and the ci-devant learned Gentleman his Graces and
Your Lordship's right hand man writing and thinking master can agree.

30
If it as formed
it will not succeed:
1. the improvements can
not thus be forced: nor
would they be
beneficial.

Besides those the abovementioned little inconveniences
Be this as it may the plan for thus forcing
the country to fill itself with County and other local
Penitentiary Houses upon the gallypol scale lies open to
two objections:—One is, that the Counties (as I have said) will/(as has been already hinted) will will not suffer
not all of them, suffer themselves to be thus forced; ("the spirit of improvement"
if this be improvement, not being quite so "universal"
in the Counties as in the above letter it is assured
to be;) Another is, that even when the every improvement looked to has actually been made the advantage, even setting aside
what Your Lordship has just been seeing in the chapter
of economy, sections architecture and official establishment,
would not be every where alike indisputable.

+ and what plan
for argument sake
at least, I can do
no otherwise than
suppose to have been
seriously entertained
to this plan, such
as it is,

Identifier: | JB/116/569/001 "JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.
Date_1	1802-12-11	Marginal Summary Numbering	28-30
Box	116	Main Headings	panopticon versus new south wales
Folio number	569	Info in main headings field	letter 3d
Image	001	Titles
Category	correspondence	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering	f29
Penner	jeremy bentham	Watermarks
Marginals	jeremy bentham	Paper Producer
Corrections		Paper Produced in Year
Notes public	letter was never sent; see note 8 to letter 1747, vol. 7	ID Number	38102
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