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24 Novr
Letter 3d

XVIII prisons

32
Proof from the
statements in a
late publication
by a Middlesex
Magistrate

The passages in question are as follows: "industry, order,
"discipline, subordination, "economy, are the points they turn
upon

No1 Page 11. "The due employment of the prisoners according to
"law in such work as they have been accustomed to, and for
"which they are most fit, has been discontinued; and since that
"period there has been a gradual decline of industry, order, discipline,
and subordination in the prison."

No2 P.12. "The only work in which it is pretended to employ
"the prisoners is that of picking oakum. . . . . at a maximum
"of three pence a day in earnings."(a) [<Some difference
between ]

(a) note (a)
Compare this
threepence with the
Philadelphia twenty pence

No3 P.27-"Supposing the prisoners to work fairly
", and not to secrete, as has frequently been done, a
"great part of the materials, rather than be at the trouble of
"picking them." (b) [ much would be by the prisoners
in a Panopticon Penitentiary House?

(b) note (b)
Quere, how much
would be secreted by
prisoners in a
Panopticon Penitentiary
House in which
they would b need never
be an instant out of
sight?

No 4 P.13. "A new system of feeding the prisoners without the
"prison, by their relations and friends, was most unfortunately introduced."

No5 P.15. "The peace and quiet of the prison is utterly destroyed
"by the perpetual visits of the prisoners' friends with victuals:
"The friends without are frequently distressed, in order to furnish
"the prisoners with food, and are driven to evil practices to
"procure the supply."

No6. P.35. "The ostensible idea was that it would save a considerable
"sum to the Country; I have no reason to believe that it
"saves the Country a farthing; the prisoner demands his allowance,
"as if nothing were brought to him; and is glad to make himself
"friends among his fellow-prisoners, by distributing what he
"does not want for himself."

No7. P.36. "The mere work of opening the hatch at the prison
"gate . . . . and serving the . . . . rations through the different parts
"of the prison would engage more than two turnkeys from morning
"to night, without allowing them leisure for any other employment." (c)

(c) Note (c)
A specimen of
the expence of
official establishments
upon the
Blackburn plan
of the improved
prisons, especially
when in the gallypot
scale

No8. P.26. "If the undertaking were not unsuitable to my character,
"and habits of life (says the worthy Magistrate), I would not hesitate to contract for
"the profits of the prisoners' labour, (if they were allowed to work
"in their respective callings, and in such other labour as is
"proper for prisoners,) and to pay the County £400 per
annum (d)</p>

Note (d)
(d) The offer being but an hypothetical one, I hope an
another has not hurt himself by it in the of a "great
person who will come upon the presently, and who was is
so much assured will would be offended if he were "flattered"</del>

Identifier: | JB/116/571/001 "JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 116.
Date_1	0000-11-24 Unable to interpret the "0000-11-24" input value as valid date or time component with "There is no year 0 in Gregorian and Julian calendars." being reported.	Marginal Summary Numbering	32
Box	116	Main Headings	panopticon versus new south wales
Folio number	571	Info in main headings field	letter 3d
Image	001	Titles	note (a) / note (b) / note (c)
Category	correspondence	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering	e2 / f31
Penner	john herbert koe	Watermarks	1800
Marginals	jeremy bentham	Paper Producer
Corrections	jeremy bentham	Paper Produced in Year	1800
Notes public	letter was never sent; see note 8 to letter 1747, vol. 7	ID Number	38104
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