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To facilitate the comparison, I will beg leave to submit
to your Lordship a Table, in which the points of resemblance
and contrast between the three systems, under some of the
principal heads, are set down, side by side.

 I. Penitentiary
 System 

1. Drunkenness, none.

2. Association with one
another, select: with
strangers, none.

3. To health, supremely
favourable: by sobriety,
cleanliness,
and constancy of occupation;
by mixture
of light with
heavy, indoor with
outdoor, work.

4. To comfort, for the
same reasons as to
health, eminently favourable;
as also by
security against uneasiness
from quarrels end oppresions:
saving always the
salutary discomfort
resulting from the
necessary discipline.

5. To reformation eminently
favourable,
in respect of the
inviolable

II. Hulk System

1. Drunkenness, none.

2. Association — with
one another, promiscuous:
with strangers.

3. To health, favourable
by sobriety: unfavourable
by want
of mixture of light
with heavy work,
and total occupation
for such as
are incapable of hard
and outdoor work.

4. To comfort, eminently
unfavourable;
by reason of the promiscuous
aggregation
in a crowded
space: under exposure
to uneasiness
from quarrels and
oppressions.

5. To reformation, eminently
unfavourable,
by reason of the

III. N.S. Wales
System

1. Drunkenness, universal.

2. Association — altogether
promiscuous:
Convicts, one with
another by thousands:
with soldiers
and seamen, with
each by hundreds.

3. To health, unfavourable
by drunkenness.
To vitality,
favourable nothwithstanding,
by the salubrity
of the climate:
setting aside
experienced frequency,
and perpetual
probrbility of famine
on the spot, and pestilence
during the
passage.

4. To comfort supremely
unfavourable; —
by the universal insecurity
in respect of
property; as well as
in respect of uneasiness
from quarrels
and oppressions.

5. To reformation supremely
unfavourable,
by reason of the
promiscuous

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I. Penitentiary
System

violable sobriety, the
select aggregation,
the constancy of occupation,
and the
subjection to inspection,
more or less
uninterrupted, according
to the plan
or architecture and
management.

6. To incapacitation
for fresh offences during
the general term,
completely effectual.

7. To prevention of
fresh offences after
the penal term eminently
conducive, in
respect of example
as well as reformation.

8. To economy; supremely
favourable;
by constancy of profitable
occupation,
mixture of light
with heavy work,
almost unlimited
choice of the most
profitable work, and
greater or less facility
of inspection.

II. Hulk System.

promiscuous and unbounded
association,
and the ascendant
naturally gained by
the most corrupted
character.

6. To incapacitation
for fresh offences during
the penal term,
effectual for the most
part.

7. In respect of fresh
offences after the penal
term, little preventive
in the way
of example: rather
conducive than preventive,
by corruption
instead of reformation.

8. To economy, imperfectly
favourable;
by want of light
work, for the weakly,
and to mix with
heavy work.

III. N.S.Wales
System

promiscuous and unbounded
association,
joined to much opportunity
of sloth
and to unbounded
drunkenness.

6. In respect of offences
during the penal
term rather conducive
than incapacitation.

7. In respect of fresh
offences after the penal
term, altogether
unpreventative in the
way of example: supremely
conducive,
by consummate corruption
instead of reformation.

. To economy supremely
adverse; by
the preference of every
cause of expence,
and the absence of
every source of profit
and frugality.

In this view, my Lord, Your Lordship (I am inclined to
think) will see more ground for the opinion, that — (setting
aside in the care of New South Wales the incompleat security
grounded on the illegal part of the punishment, a security
which, according to the latest accounts, is in a way to
be much weeakened, if not given up — and of which the degree,
in respect of the number of returners, depends in a
great

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