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Apr. 1811 3 4
Panopt. J.B. to Committee. Letter III Country Convicts

13 30
VII Expence of conveyance
and earn.
(owned okay this confessed send to hear
—) a Panopt worn added these:
out.. East, West, or north.

31
14
Negatur, if only two.
p.9.

32 15.
Even in case of three
advantage from this
saving would not
compensate disadvantage
from the other
sources. p.9.

16 33
The difference of expence
if any, can not be
saved but may be
equalized:—

viz. by the Contracting
Governor: taking
upon him this expence:
as is of contract price
average distance from
London.

This would save the
distant counties fromor
the extra burthen.
p.10

17. 34
IV Fund improper
answered

1. Fund not improper.
2. If improper the proper
are easily substitutable
p11

18 35
1. Proposed Fund not
improper. Proof—
1. Proposed fund the
national fund — the same
that is drawn upon
for Colonization & the
Hulks.—

Thence per Parliament
not improper. p.11.


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19 36
Conceditur — for Penitentiary
Convicts another
fund has been drawn
upon—

Why?—because the
local were the only
funds that could be
drawn upon for the
local prisons. p.11

20. 37
Option open, Poor rate
fund never so good as
National do.— Contributors,
none but House—
keepers, nor they in
proportion to their
means: consumers,
non — house keeping,
exempted. — This
topic disqualified.

21 38.
II. Poors rate fund
if proper easily chargeable

Counties improvable
in proportion to the
number of convicts they
habitually furnished by
each. p.12.

22.39
Conceditur, difficulty as
to the charging in this
case the Counties. that
That have set up improved
prisons
. p.12.

or points
this in object &
request charging

the expence of the
Poors Rate fund


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§ in Fair Copy

PoG?

23.40
Objection. For the
Counties in England
take the expence out
of the universal fund,
so you must for Scotland
& for Ireland.
p.13.

24 41
Answer. Yes.
1. So you have for
colonization & the
Hulks. p.13.

25 42
2. Panopticon plan
the best, no reason
for refusing it to
Scotland or Ireland
but on the Supposition
the supposition
that they are not
parts of the United
Kingdom or have not
the same right to
good government.
p.13.

43 26
Conceditur,—Scotland
would be to have its
Panopticon, Ireland
its do or Panopticons.
Reasons against
London in these cases
1. Difference of religious
rites.
2. Remoteness of discharged
convicts from
domestic connections
&c. p.14


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Identifier: | JB/117/406/001
"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 117.

Date_1

1811-04

Marginal Summary Numbering

30-43

Box

117

Main Headings

panopticon

Folio number

406

Info in main headings field

panopt. jb to committee letter iii country convicts

Image

001

Titles

Category

marginal summary sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

d3 / f4

Penner

john herbert koe

Watermarks

iping 1804

Marginals

Paper Producer

bernardino rivadavia

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

1804

Notes public

ID Number

39023

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