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of Panopticon: II. Terms Submittible to for the preservation of do. N.B. Particular Answers
to the Objections therein made to Do. are preparing.

II. Terms Submittable to
for preservation of Panopt.

19 or 3.
2. Core objection is – that
under Mr B's contract,
it may get into other
hands.
Answer. To Genl B's
there can be no objection
and they would both consent
that during their
respective lives, personal
responsibility shall remain
in them in
whatever hands it is
by them placed.
NB. Under Gen. B's
direction a Panopticon
for 2000 working hands
has been instituted
at Petersburgh, & copied
elsewhere in Russia:
Mr Kirk, who had the
management of it, is
here and examinable.
Gen. B. has workmen
in multitudes under
his management
in Portsmouth Dock
Yard. Enquire too about
that.

20 17 or 4.
3. To obviate all objections
about under-feeding
and over-feeding
and over-working to his
own profit, Mr B.
would give up the profit
for any length of
time deemed requisite
for the experiment, or
for ever. p.7.

21 18 or 5.
4. In this case, only
continue to him, during
the experimental term,
the amount of the
subsistence money
he derives at present
from the land: or give
him his compensation
money, to be refunded
on his giving up admittance to the
management of the establishment to be
managed
on the terms
of the Contract.


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II. Terms Submittable to
for preservation of Panopt.

22 19 or 6.
5. Whether he has it
upon the Contract terms
immediately, or not till
after probation time, as
above, to obviate the
objection of remediableness
that has been
made, he consents
to be dismissible upon
a hearing before a
Committee of Council
so it be with open
doors. p 8.

19 23. continued or 7.
Mr Bentham, the Committee
declare themselves
"satisfied, would enter upon
"the undertaking with the
"best intentions". But by
the publicity and publications
undertaken for, whatsoever
good points were
introduced by him would
be rendered notorious:
and should either he or
any successor of his swerve
in any point from the
pattern of good management
so exhibited,
here will be a specific
ground for emotion:
viz. even during his
life or that of his Brother.
But, on the death
of the survivor of them
the Contract is at an
end: and then Government
does in relation
to every point whatever
it thinks best.


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I. General Objections &c
continued.

14
In regard to expence
by the Bill Parliament
are called upon to approve
of the now revived
plan without knowing
– or regarding the expence.
Not so much as
any the loosest Estimate
is produced, much less
any that has for its
ground a proffered Contract.
In the Report the superiority
of Panopticon
in this respect is acknowledged.
(p.11.)

15.
What is the amount of
the mischief which by this
utter disregard to economy
Gentlemen promise themselves
to prevent?
For a given number of
Prisoners, first expence of
Panopticon, say £50,000:
of the now proposed Penitentiary,
say £250,000:
i.e. 5 times as great.
(N.B. On the former plans
it would have been 10
times as great. Pen. Rep.
31 May 1811 p.68.)
To warrant the avowed
disregard of Economy,
then ought to be, in supposition
at least, a certainty of that by Panopticon
mischief would be done
to the value of £200,000,
or a probability, as 2 to
1, of do to the value of
£400,000: and so on:
this too, over and above
would would be done under
the now-proposed Penitentiary.
– Yes: – or under
whatever other Convict
Establishments, (viz.
Hulks &c) are preserved,
which Panopticon is
sacrificed.


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I. General Objections &c
continued.

16.
In addition to the extra
expence of building
comes the "liberal compensation"
promised
to Mr B. This, if but
strictly just, would be
great indeed: – but in
relation to this item,
Economy would avenge
herself for the injuries
done to her in those
others
.
See Mr B.'s paper
on the mode of compensation
proposed in the
Bill, and the substitute
proposed by him.


Identifier: | JB/118/240/003
"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 118.

Date_1

1812-03

Marginal Summary Numbering

1-13, 17 or 1 - 23 or 7, 14-16

Box

118

Main Headings

panopticon

Folio number

240

Info in main headings field

general heads of objection to the penitentiary report 31 may 1811, as to the extinction of panopticon

Image

003

Titles

Category

marginal summary sheet

Number of Pages

2

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

Penner

john herbert koe

Watermarks

john dickinson & co 1809

Marginals

Paper Producer

a. levy

Corrections

jeremy bentham

Paper Produced in Year

1809

Notes public

ID Number

39294

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