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12 Sept 1812
J.B. to Ld Sidmouth

1.
J.B's books sent.
p.1.

2.
Item the early Letters.
p.1.

3.
References to Finance
Committee 1797-8-28
Report p.1.

4.
Quantity apologized for.
Early tract & letters
serve for history and
for indication of the
favourable opinion
then entertained of
JB by the most competent
Judges. p.1.

5.
As to the other matter,
consultation may
serve for some of it:
– no partforeign to
Ld S's department.
p.2.

6.
JB though reduced
to be a suitor, not to
Ld S. an importunate
one. p.8.

7.
Sole occasion of this
address the transmission
of the above
Papers. Ld S's assurance
the non agenda being
relied on.

8.
JB's hopes in respect
of the need of
Ld S's reading the
documents their gradation.
1. Minimum Holford's
Report, with JB's evidence
in the Appendix.
NB £24,000 still
payable to JB. p.3.


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8 continued.
2. That insufficient
the Finance 28th
Report.
3. Then JB's works
herewith sent.
4. Then lastly a
further hearing for
the express purpose
– unless Ld Sidmouth
would limit the
points. p.4.
5. Lastly in case of
need a fall reputation
of Holfords
Report for Parliament
and Public. p.5

9.
Mean time a more
brief intimation of
JB's grounds &
reasons in hopes of
saving time to JB
Ld S. p.5.

13.
If for being constantly under
inspection as per upon JB's
plan, the apartments in
the prison were never the
better, they would not
be the worse: if his
plan were on trial condemned,
none of the money
would be lost: it would
be applicable to other
plans. p.

11.
On Holford's plan, delay.
Benefit of the work a
interest of the money
lost.
J.B's idea on this head
explained.
This worth Vansittarts notice


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1.
Penitentiary capital as
per H's & JB's
For 1200 Prisoners
1. H's plan £
1. Building as per
Estimate
Additional as in the
Mint. p.

2.
Add filling up
furnishing & stocking
= £.
Total £.

3.
Of all this persons
on whom the fixation
depends it is is the
interest to maximise
it. p.1.

4.
JB's plan,
Maximum £100,000
for building
fitting up, furnishing
and stocking.
This at present only
as per conjecture. p.2.

5.
On encouragement
JB would name a
certain sum beyond
which if the expence
extended he would pay
an extra rent out
of the profits as per
contract allowed. p.8.

6.
Per H's lan of this
capital no part
is expected to be repaid.
The utmost expectation
(as per ) extends
not beyond the current
annual expence.

7.
Of this profit consistently
with the compensation
due to JB
no part could be received
during his life.

8.
To him less could not be
given than what they expect
to make: since of
him what was expected was
not that he could get less
but more than a moderate profit. p.3


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9.
The flagrant injustice to
charge him with two
different sums: excess
to warrant his removal,
defect to serve as a
measure for his compensation.
p.3.
Upon the Panopticon
Contract plan, per JB.
ultimately the concern
might be made profit
to the public rather
than loss. p.4

10.
Had public faith
been kept with JB
the engagement
might long ago have
been tried without
any expence: so
small was the advance
required; and
by JB's offer the
Hulk expence was
reduced. – See the
contracts, as per
Treasury Books. p.4

11.
Can any reason be
assigned why JB's plan
which would cost only
100000£ should not be
first tried? Why the
maximum of expence
should be incurred at
first? p.4

12.
The expensive plan unsuccessful
the economical
one could never be
gone back to. The
existing spot would be
all preoccupied and for
JB's plan – it requiring
the best public, no place
equally near to the centre
of inspection, of viz. the
Offices &c could be had
at all. p.5

13.
On JB's plan if successful
the existing
spot could suffice the
for the whole convict
population of the Island.
p.5.


Identifier: | JB/118/243/001
"JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 118.

Date_1

1812-09-10

Marginal Summary Numbering

1-9, 1-13

Box

118

Main Headings

panopticon

Folio number

243

Info in main headings field

jb to ld sidmouth

Image

001

Titles

Category

marginal summary sheet

Number of Pages

1

Recto/Verso

recto

Page Numbering

Penner

john herbert koe

Watermarks

th 1806

Marginals

Paper Producer

andre morellet

Corrections

Paper Produced in Year

1806

Notes public

ID Number

39297

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