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13 Sept. 1812
To Ld Sidmouth

N.B. With Honourable Gentlemen this, I am well assured, was
relied upon and the grand argument against Panopticon relied upon and employed, at least
in whispers and significant looks, against Panopticon, For and
the system of economy dependent on it. For as what measures soever men are associated grouped in the day time,
unless it be this, what other possible objection, all violence
and attempt to escape being precluded by actual and unremitted
inspection, what possible objection can there be unless it be this to the sleeping house being
passed in the same groupes?⊞ ⊞ Why was an
unremittingly inspected
prison, more than on board
than on board an
uninspected ship?
aoartment or a ship?
prison , a
manufactory or
a ship? Corruptive conversation? what?
at sleeping hours are men more talkative than at waking
hours? At sleeping hours, is there anything that men can be in the way of mischievous discourse in
whatever shape, of there any all the things that men can say can say to one another, is there anything that, that in the same prisons places the same men
could not as just as easily say, and be at least as ready
to say, in waking hours?

Two things measures being predetermined upon – viz. the suppression
of Panopticon and the (to diminish the apparent urgency of the demand
for it) inter alia the preservation of the Hulks, – and while unfortunately on board the Hulks
the existen prevalence of those practices was matter of notoriety, –
how were those two of those two points measure in appearance so difficult
to reconcile, how was the reconciliation to be accomplished?

In the first place, by insinuations conveyed with
the utmost delicacy as persuasion was to be an impression was to be produced that in
a Panopticon, and thereby without the town of 600 houses, in which so
the large a portion of the grand mass of patronage was to be founded, that the prevention
of such practices was is impossible.

Report, p. 66. Question to myself Mr Bentham. "Did you mean that they should
"sleep more than one in the same room? – Answer. "Oh Yes" &c. Question thereupon. "Did it occurr to you that there were any objections
to more than one sleeping sleeping in the same room, or
"had you any means of obje obviating the objection?" Answer.
"There would be very strong objection ... were it not for the
"characteristic principle of my plan" .... &c.

Identifier: | JB/118/394/001 "JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 118.
Date_1	1812-09-13	Marginal Summary Numbering
Box	118	Main Headings	panopticon
Folio number	394	Info in main headings field	to ld sidmouth
Image	001	Titles
Category	text sheet	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering	a14*
Penner	jeremy bentham	Watermarks
Marginals		Paper Producer
Corrections		Paper Produced in Year
Notes public	draft of enclosure to letter 2190, vol. 8	ID Number	39448
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